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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) View the horrific video of these people screaming "Allah is the Greatest!" as one of them slowly slices off the head of an innocent human being and then holding up the severed head as a trophy and answer your own question. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) What part of wiping out the Taliban in Afganistan wasn't helpful? What part of deposing SH, a known sponsor of terrorism and possessor of WMDs wasn't helpful? What would you suggest as an alternative response? (...) What war are you talking (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) I agree with the latter part; torture is notoriously unreliable as an information source. However, it is becoming increasingly clear that the torture at Abu Ghraib (and likely elsewhere) was endorsed by high ranking military personnel, up to (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Huh? 4 terms? 4 years maybe. (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Hey now, I am one of those farmers. Pumpkins, not corn. What do you recommend I do. I can't exactly dump the extras in developing countries, but I have donated hundreds to local school fund raisers. Is that cutting into the 3rd world (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Hmmm, I thought it was a bit long winded and sort of lost track at the per capita part. In my politically incorrect world it seems a large part of the problem is those darned capitas. The third world produces so many of them it messes up the (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) !!! Divide it by ten, sir. Really, you're way off. Read your links again. The statistics give the number of deaths per 1,000 live births not the number per 100 live births. So that's 7.6%, not too far off in a very poor country. (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) Now that's a bit uncalled for. If someone is an actual conservative, and I do know quite a few of them--intelligent ones, too--they're just as outraged over the bloat and entanglement of our present government. This is why I raise the cry (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) This is only part of the picture, but you do have a point. You may find it interesting to search Google for “(URL) birth control>” The reality is that developed countries are substantially responsible for much of the problems in the developing (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
(...) Unique Selling Point. I understand he ticks all the correct ethnic minority boxes in one swoop. This means there is no need for other minorities to have a token presence in a movie, thus allowing more room for white guys! (...) I knew fine (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Entertaining, but I only got a little ways in when I hit this. A.C.: "One can assume the director of the Nigerian Department of Tourism isn't too pleased. Winning the pageant site had been an uphill battle from the beginning. Some of the more (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
(...) It was meant to hide his real identity, and thus disguise the fate of Captain Miller. Not all flashbacks are necessarily that of the character in question, though it may be regarded as a sneaky bit of story-telling subtrafuge and implied (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) Actually, I understood you better than you did, I think. :-) (...) But you wanted to plant the notion that such an attack would be to aid Kerry, regardless of what Kerry would want. It was just the spin you had to put on it when it really (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Hi. 80% mortality? Not likely. In fact, the opposite is true; that's what's helping the problem of overpopulation along. The real pushing force is the labor value of children; in agricultural societies--or, better put, societies that still (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Please. The New York Times is considered the most respected and established news source in the US (registration costs nothing). (...) Won't dignify that smart-ass remark with a repl.....uh, nevermind. (...) How do you increase a threat as (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
This post is rather long. Sorry about that, for anyone who's following. (...) Well, I watched the entire "beheading" video, and honestly it's not particularly more horrifying that the pictures from Abu Ghraib. Yes, it's a brutal, premeditiated act, (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Incorrect. In fact, the responsibility of those lost Iraqi lives can be attributed to OBL as well. Consider this recent NYT article by Thomas Friedman: (URL) The resistance in Iraq is coming primarily from outside Iraq, not in. As Friedman (...) (20 years ago, 24-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) Are you channeling a little (URL) Luc Picard> there? Dave! FUT OT.Geek (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) On what basis do you declare these people to be psychotic, inhuman and irrational? Is it because they go to extraordinary lengths to force others to accept their extremist religious doctrines? Is it because they kill innocent civilians in the (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
(...) You mean Conservative Freedom and Conservative Democracy, where the Conservatives get to tell you what to do, even in your own bedroom? No thanks, I'll pass on that. -- Tom Stangl (URL) Visual FAQ home (URL) Visual FAQ Home (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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