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  Re: Pastel = Profit (Was Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?))
 
(...) Sometimes that's hard. Misunderstandings and differing expectations happen all the time and largely it's because of different world-view which is kind of the same as having accepted different implied contracts. I (sort of) keep track of what (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
 
(...) Oh, gee, yeah, that certainly justifies it. :-/ First, the retailer catalog was never "released" (to consumers). Retailer catalogs are sent to *retailers* for *retailers* to use for their businesses. Second, to the best of my knowledge, this (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
 
Here's my quick opinion: TLG has the right to do as they wish with their information, and that includes putting restrictions on how and when (and if) it is made available. TLG doesn't respect us much, if at all, as a corporation now. This whole (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Pastel = Profit (Was Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?))
 
(...) What do you mean? There is some evidence for both sides. They do go to the effort to restrict the general consumer flow of information - for whatever reason - so obviously they care at least a little. There are many cited examples of retail (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Matthew jumps in (was Re: Goodness of Man?, etc.)
 
(...) [snip] (...) Found this: (URL) I don't think you say a single word about property, let alone property rights as a foundation, though. For what it's worth: in fact, I agree strongly with your conclusion in that case. The weak link you point out (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Policy clarification regarding catalogs
 
(...) I may revisit this tomorrow after all the spirits are flushed out of my system, but on the surface this is a bogus analogy. Front window/back window. Signs pointing HERE - Look at this! No signs pointing to other areas, but stuff still there (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Policy clarification regarding catalogs
 
(...) No. Refuse, once released to an ordinary refuse collection service, is no longer the property of the originator. If you don't want people viewing your secret plans, shred them and contract with a secure document service which retains control (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I think we would still have some public space. There would also be plenty of property owners willing to grant broad priviledge to their tenants. I know my church would offer almost complete priviledge of speech on its property. The only real (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Shouldn't the airspace above your property be yours, subject to deeded covenants? Obviously if we were to switch over to Liberatopia, air rights would have to be negotiated with everyone. I would expect a few airports to be forced to close (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Taxes from Lego auctions?
 
(...) Well, I am not sure about the exact nature of your hypothetical, but how about the way one uses an ATM for different purposes -- your use being contigent on available money in the account. The account itself is simply paid for with a service (...) (25 years ago, 25-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) Wouldn't you then have legal recourse to sue (or whatever) that person for stealing? After all, it's your goods he's profiting from, without your permission, neh? <snippage> (...) Under a Libertarian system (which is one of the premises to (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I don't see how you can support ideas as property at all. Remember that this means that if a person happens to have the exact same idea, independently of the other guy (and this has happened before - see Gutenberg and the others as a canonical (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Art and Property ZRights
 
(...) I'm going to step out on a limb here, and try and weave something together from the two debates we have going on. ASSERTIONS: 1. Art is something that is created with intent to evoke an emotional response. 2. The VALUE of art is something (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) If they are not involved in any control of drugs (for example not a politician, cop, or parent), and they aren't still doing drugs, nothing other than perhaps acknowledge that yes, they did do drugs . If they are a parent trying to keep their (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Not at all! ;-) It simply guarantees that those who have money, be they individuals or corporations, will continute to have money and the best that it can buy, from education to property (which could thereupon be protected by these nebulous (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
(score: 4.212)

  Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) " 'Dubya " is a nickname I've heard used for George W. Bush. Say his middle initial slowly, and put a little Texas drawl into it and "double U" mutates into "dubya". I think it may actually have been Gary Trudeau (Doonsbury author) that coined (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) That, dear Larry, is what one would call "sarcasm". To restate more clearly: Pure libertarians (or so I've been led to believe)(which you obviously don't come under by this definition) want to do without government altogether. I've talked with (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
(score: 4.210)

  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
My capitalist running dog lackey Frank Filz answered most of this append faster and better than I could. However a few points remain... (...) You can do that if you wish. Coke did, seems to work for them. However if someone else susses it out, (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) "Rule" is a complicated word, of course. KJV says "let them have dominion over". I don't know what the original hebrew uses, or the cultural implications of the concept when this was put into writing. My understanding is that ancient hebrew (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  RFC: An Alternative..
 
Disclaimers ===...=== First off, I don't have the benefit of being incredibly smart, so there are bound to be holes. But even the simplest idea can spark others into greater feats of insight and imagination - hopefully that will be the case. I (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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