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Re: Spot Pole - Is Gore Just a Bad Loser?
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Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:16:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> Spot Pole - Is Gore Just a Bad Loser?
I've heard Gore called a tree before, but never a pole.
Or maybe you mean Pole as in Polish? I see a few of
those right now! At least, I think they're Polish.
Could be Hungarians.
> I can't decide. To a certain extend, I can see his point. But if I were
> cynical, I would say that he is just going to go on wanting re-counts until
> he gets the results he wants.
Nah--there's a moment when even his allies will desert
him. The thing nobody seems to catch on to is that the
*first* recount isn't technically done yet. Doesn't a
full recount, by hand, have to be done according to the
law of Florida? (Even if law doesn't say 'by hand,' I'm
not sure what other method of verification would be more
reliable or definitive.)
> Perhaps there really are constitutional issues at stake here? Even if there
> are, did he not accept the current system when he entered "the race". Should
> he just accept the result now, and then work to clarify the system for the
> next time?
IMHO, no reason he has to accept a result that isn't confirmed.
Most of the uproar has been over potential snarls, when the
current avenues haven't been exhausted.
The whole question of unfair voting practices is another ball
of wax--the supposedly 'confusing' ballot in Palm Springs is
a non-issue for me. The community could see sample ballots,
leaders said nothing, and besides, the ballot wasn't confusing
to me when I saw it--I mean, come on, the human brain *can*
handle a certain degree of compositional complexity. For
his own sake, Gore should stay far away from Jesse Jackson
and the Vote Lawsuit Crew.
When I got my absentee ballot there was no second chance--if I did so
much as erase an errant letter in my name, it would be invalidated.
I knew that, it was plainly written on the instruction sheet.
As far as the hole-punch ballots, those can go either way--
hand-counting catches spots where the machine has simply failed
to register. That's what recounts are for.
As for the Bush team trying to get a Federal judge to stop the
recount, I think they know it's futile (and have planned for
that eventuality). I do think it makes them look very, very
bad, however--I'd need to see the text of the Florida statute,
but they're trying to obstruct (or end-run) FL state law from
where I see it. If the judge upholds the petition, expect a
long, long, long legal battle, which everyone's going to lose.
Where did it say that on Election night we must know who our
next President is to be?
> If he does loose in the end, will history view him as a bad loser, rather
> than a former VP? Will he be able to run again? Will HC let him?
I don't think history will care about the person, only the
election. On the other hand, there's a morbid sense of
fascination in my mind at the prospect of having Strom Thurmond
serve as Interim President--only 52 years after he lost his
own Super Tuesday! I already have a slogan: "Strom Thurmond:
A Nineteenth-Century Man for Twenty-First Century America!"
C'mon, how bad could it be? Just think "Admiral Stockdale,"
sit back, and enjoy.
best
Lindsay (who's happy with the results of his MI votes, from
faraway London)
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| (...) Hey, it passed the spell checker - so it must be right :-\ (...) Yes. But is the point of doing it by hand is to find the votes not puched out right. I suppose one could argue they are spoiled. (...) Fair enough. Is there not also rumours of (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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