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Re: Spot Pole - Is Gore Just a Bad Loser?
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Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:01:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Eric Kingsley writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > Spot Pole - Is Gore Just a Bad Loser?
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> Not quite yet no. Actually I think Bush is out of bounds at the moment in
> going to court to seek an injunction to stop the manual recounts. I think he
> would be better off picking 4 predominantly Republican county's in Florida and
> asking for a recount their. That would balance off some of the gains Gore will
> make in the Democratic counties he picked.
I have do agree. Bush should sit back and try to look cool.
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> > I can't decide. To a certain extend, I can see his point. But if I were
> > cynical, I would say that he is just going to go on wanting re-counts until
> > he gets the results he wants.
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> I think up until now he has done what the law allows and I don't have a problem
> with it. Remember he did not ask for the first recount, that was automatic.
> He asked for this one as is his right under Florida law. If he tries to go for
> more then I would have a problem with it.
Yes, but is he not inciting other to take action as individuals? I'm sure I
heard that.
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> > Perhaps there really are constitutional issues at stake here? Even if there
> > are, did he not accept the current system when he entered "the race". Should
> > he just accept the result now, and then work to clarify the system for the
> > next time?
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> I definitly don't think he should "just accept the results now". He has to
> wait until at least friday so all the oversea's ballots can be counted. Even
> though the oversea's ballots tend to lean Republican with the narrow margin
> there is now you just never know.
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> BTW, I don't think there will be any Constitutional crisis about this. I think
> the system is fine. I stated before that if they did away with the electoral
> collage then the smaller states would just be ignored by the presidential
> canidates and they would stick to the more populated areas. I personally live
> in a medium sized state (Electoral wise) but many of the states around me are
> small and would be ignored. As it is Massachusetts is ignored because it is so
> heavily Democratic that neither candidate bothered to campaign here.
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> > If he does loose in the end, will history view him as a bad loser, rather
> > than a former VP? Will he be able to run again? Will HC let him?
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> Maybe maybe not, it is so hard to tell what history will say. I personally
> think Clinton, with all his problems, will go down in history as a pretty good
> president. As for Gore he probably has a better chance of being labeled a sore
> looser just because people don't remember the Vice-President so the only place
> in history for him is on the pages for the 2000 election which was one of the
> closest in history.
That's fair comment. I agree with you about Clinton. As an outsider looking
in, I think Gore should have used Clinton more. However, that's just a gut
feeling, and I'd I expect he researched his position.
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> As it is I think no matter who wins that the winner will be a damaged
> president and will be considered by many to be a "lame duck". With this
> election bickering along with the current direction the economy is going in I
> doubt either one of these guys has a chance a re-election in 4 years.
I'm temped to agree. These two are pretty bland, next time both parties may
decide to take more risk.
Scott A
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> Eric Kingsley
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| (...) <snip? (...) Well thats a good point. While I don't think that Gore will file a lawsuit in say Palm Beach over the validity of the ballot I would expect people from his campaign are probably encouraging private citizens to file suit and giving (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Not quite yet no. Actually I think Bush is out of bounds at the moment in going to court to seek an injunction to stop the manual recounts. I think he would be better off picking 4 predominantly Republican county's in Florida and asking for a (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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