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Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
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Tue, 9 Aug 2005 21:13:57 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Samuel Morrison wrote:
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Let me paint a clearer picture than: when I wrote organize, I meant
gather to demonstrate (peacefully) and express the ideals of their group,
no matter what they may be. I would restrict their right to assemble on the
basis that their virtues involve inappropriate behavior with children, and
has been deemed harmful to children. Likewise, regardless of the finer
points of Naziing or whatever its called, it is viewed by minority groups
to be harmful. This isnt a case of hurt feelings - Naziing is directly
responsible for 6 to 11 million people being killed in Europe in the 1930s
and 1940s.
-nk
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And what is inappropriate? Who decides? You?
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Who decides what is appropriate? You?
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Some would argue it is inappropriate that women are permitted out in public
unveiled.
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Right, so lets force them all into extermination camps.
Not the same issue.
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Sure, Nazism is a horrible, evil thing, but should we restrict someones
right to act like a jerk if they want to?
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If in the course of being a jerk, you earmark a minority group of humans for
death, we should restrict it. Should we have allowed slavery to continue?
Slaveowners were just being jerks, right?
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Youre equating the use of a swastika to killing
millions, and its an entirely different issue. A symbol is not murder.
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You keep comparing communism to nazism, and you compared naziism to Muslim
culture earlier in this post. But Im guilty of confusing a swastika with
nazism? Wow, I should lie down to clear my head.
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Message has 1 Reply: ![](/news/x.gif) | | Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
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| (...) You're confusing speech with action. Wearing a swastika= speech. Murdering millions = action. Advocating slavery = speech, enslaving people = action. HUGE difference. (...) Again, a symbol is speech, not an action. And I'm using a few extreme (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) And what is "inappropriate"? Who decides? You? Some would argue it is inappropriate that women are permitted out in public unveiled. Sure, Nazism is a horrible, evil thing, but should we restrict someone's right to act like a jerk if they want (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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