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Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
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Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:45:57 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Samuel Morrison wrote:
   In lugnet.space, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.space, Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
  
Isn’t free speech annoying?

Definitely, when the speaker is irresponsible and uncivil. Freedom doesn’t mean one can do whatever the heck one wants. The concept of Freedom must be tempered with responsibility and respect.

JOHN

Whoa - if everyone is always responsible, civil, and unoffensive, why even bother with freedom of speech?

Do you mean if everyone is perfect, why bother with laws? I guess you wouldn’t need them. Then again, everyone isn’t perfect, so I have no idea what your point is.

   Freedom of speech is there specifically to protect behavior people might find offensive, like neo-Nazi marches through Jewish neighborhoods in Illinois.

And I’m saying that responsible, considerate people who hate Jews shouldn’t have marches through Jewish neighborhoods. I am not saying that they don’t have the right to be the complete idiots that they are; they should jsut keep their biggoted views private. That is responsible and civil.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

JOHN



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  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I'd like to clarify this, if I may. John, from our long history of debate, I sense that you'd agree that people have the right to air their views publicly, no matter how ignorant or hateful those views are, but according to the nature of our (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Whoa - if everyone is always responsible, civil, and unoffensive, why even bother with freedom of speech? Freedom of speech is there specifically to protect behavior people might find offensive, like neo-Nazi marches through Jewish (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  

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