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Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:33:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Freedom of speech is there specifically to protect behavior people might
find offensive, like neo-Nazi marches through Jewish neighborhoods in
Illinois.
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And I’m saying that responsible, considerate people who hate Jews shouldn’t
have marches through Jewish neighborhoods. I am not saying that they don’t
have the right to be the complete idiots that they are; they should jsut keep
their biggoted views private. That is responsible and civil.
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I’d like to clarify this, if I may. John, from our long history of debate, I
sense that you’d agree that people have the right to air their views
publicly, no matter how ignorant or hateful those views are, but according to
the nature of our society it is more civil not to air those views in a manner
that is unduly uncomfortable to those likely to hear them.
Granted, that’s a pretty elastic guideline, but I think that it’s how society
tends to function. Sure, at Bob Curmudgeon’s funeral you have the right to
point out that he was a mean-spirited ignoramus, but it’s not polite to do
so because it would be grossly uncomfortable to the bereaved.
On the other hand, if a subjugated group wishes to express its discontentment
with that subjugation, their expression of it may be “uncomfortable” to the
entrenched status quo, but then we get into a complicated weighing of “rights”
versus “comfort,” and I think that’s a larger debate than we need to engage at
the moment.
As you point out, John--it doesn’t require perfection; just a sense of the way
that society tends to function smoothly.
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Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
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For example, I can eat an entire cheesecake in one sitting, but should
I?
Dave!
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) Once again, you have crystallized my thoughts exactly, Paul..er Dave! [1] (...) Exactly. "polite", "civil", "responsible", "respectful". They are all qualities of a good citizen; a good person for that matter. (...) Yes, tactics are certainly (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Do you mean if everyone is perfect, why bother with laws? I guess you wouldn't need them. Then again, everyone isn't perfect, so I have no idea what your point is. (...) And I'm saying that responsible, considerate people who hate Jews (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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