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Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
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Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:42:54 GMT
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   Let me paint a clearer picture than: when I wrote “organize”, I meant “gather to demonstrate (peacefully) and express the ideals of their group, no matter what they may be. I would restrict their right to assemble on the basis that their virtues involve inappropriate behavior with children, and has been deemed harmful to children. Likewise, regardless of the finer points of Naziing or whatever it’s called, it is viewed by minority groups to be harmful. This isn’t a case of hurt feelings - Naziing is directly responsible for 6 to 11 million people being killed in Europe in the 1930’s and 1940’s.

-nk

And what is “inappropriate”? Who decides? You? Some would argue it is inappropriate that women are permitted out in public unveiled. Sure, Nazism is a horrible, evil thing, but should we restrict someone’s right to act like a jerk if they want to? You’re equating the use of a swastika to killing millions, and it’s an entirely different issue. A symbol is not murder.



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  Freedom of Protest, was Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Nick's point is that there is a difference between "restrict someone's right to act like a jerk" AND "restrict someone's right to act like a jerk anywhere they please. The Supreme Court has held up "free speach zones" - especially on college (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I prefer it when extremist hate groups say really stupid things in public. It shows the rest of society what they really believe. Forcing groups like this undgerground is just ignoring the issue. Jeff (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Who decides what is appropriate? You? (...) Right, so let's force them all into extermination camps. Not the same issue. (...) If in the course of being a jerk, you earmark a minority group of humans for death, we should restrict it. Should we (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I don't believe that speech was included at the time of the BoR for society-at-large censorship, but rather protection from vengeful governing bodies like royalty or Congress. As I stated earlier, there were no neo-nazis in the late 18th (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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