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Re: Free Speech, again
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Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:13:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Maggie Cambron writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Most importantly, you haven't told me where "ne" came from.
> > > > I use it to mean "yes?" (as in, "do you agree?") and only at the end of
> > > > sentences.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone recognise it?
> > >
> > > Doh! How about the simple "ne c'est pas?" in the now-forbidden language?
> > >
> > > Dave!
> >
> > Actually the Japanese connection makes more sense because if you make a
> > statement and then append the "ne" it does mean "don't you agree?" or "isn't
> > it?" But I wouldn't have associated it with the Lar "ne" because I
> > always read
> > that with an upward interrogative intonation, whereas the Japanese
> > "ne" doesn't
> > end with that upward accent (accent isn't the word but my brain is numb and
> > I cannot think of the proper one-- must be my bedtime). Oh, and the Japanese
> > "ne" is kind of drawn out whereas I imagine the Lar "ne" to be more abrupt.
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> Must be from Anime or Manga then. Thanks for that, Mags... whew, that's all
> settled.
Probably. Appending "ne" or "neh" as I've always seen it spelled is from
the Japanese. I know I picked it up from James Clavell in years gone by,
but Anime/Manga has certainly re-inforced it.
That's how language grows, neh?
(That's how language grows, yes?)
(That's how language grows, ne c'est pas?)
It's a 'tack onto the end of a statement to turn it into a rhetorical
question' word. I'm sure there's some sort of linguistic term for that, but
I don't know it.
James
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| (...) <snip> (...) Well, us Canadians have been doing that for years, eh [1] Dave K 1- pronounced 'ay'--hearkens back into Canadian obscurity, but most pronounced during the McKenzie Era, in which two Canadian Heros--Bob and Doug popularized the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Here in Minnesnoowda, we use an inflection of the voice at the end of a statement such as "That's how language grows" which in essence implies "Are you with me?" I never noticed how predominant it was until I moved away to Arizona for 7 years (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Must be from Anime or Manga then. Thanks for that, Mags... whew, that's all settled. (I'm gonna go with her explanation, Dave! Sorry about that, but she's smarter than you, Dave!... you're allegedly not as smart as Tim Robbins, at least (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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