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(...) I had originally indended to post this following the first reply, but my e-mail server was down and by the time it was back up, two others had replied, so i deleted my authentication. But I see that this is going to continue ;), so i'll jump (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As a hypothetical example, if you had ordered $1000 worth of LEGO and it was delivered to me in error, would you accuse me of stealing if I kept it and didn't pay for it? Or how about if I saw three Super Chiefs sitting on a delivery cart and (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now this is a discussion :) 'Tis true, if *I* have something that I did not pay for, which should have been paid for, it is stealing. If I knowingly went to a store and stuck something in my pocket and walked out, that is stealing. If the (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In the first example, if the item was addressed to you, it would be the same. See below for analysis. If it was not addressed to you, then keeping it is stealing. This is different in a material way. Helping yourself to three off the delivery (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Darn. Good points. After I posted, it occurred to me that my analogy was flawed, but it was too late. (...) Legally, sure. But the issue was "is it stealing based on Xian values?" and I think it fairly clearly was. Dave! (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ok these are all good points, and I would like to apologize to Jeremy for my earlier "you're a thief and so is your daddy!" post. I agree that my tone was a bit harsh, now that it’s past lunch and I’m settled in for a calmer afternoon I will (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would also hope the receiving party would at least say something about it! There was a situation in my past when a family member found 2500 dollars (CDN so like 50 bucks for you Americans ;) ) in a parkinglot somewhere. He did not put an ad (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it's still debatable. Of course I mentioned that depending on the circumstances, I would take the effort to help the sender correct their mistake. While I don't call my self a Christian, it is certainly in my values to try and be fair. (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Note: It is against my rules to post here but because of the recent activity, which was caused by me, I decided to break that rule to address this issue and not ignore it. However, I am not here to stay... (...) James, Thanks for the apology. My (...) (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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To make all of us happy: I called LSAH and the lady told me all was okay, this happens often. If I wanted to pay for them I could but I said i'd rather keep them for free or have them sent back at the cost of Lego. She said, "keep it then." (22 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) GET IT IN WRITING!!!!!!! Todd (22 years ago, 22-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The same happened to me a year or so ago. The second package is basically unsolicited mail. When I called Lego, I was told that they did not expect me to waste my time taking it back to the post office just to clear up their error. Scott A =+= (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The last two people I knew who had lost their wallets had them returned by complete strangers with nothing missing. It's not that uncommon! Anyway, on this whole ownership/possession of goods issue please remember that WE don't possess Lego (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This whole topic comes down, in my opinion, to meaningless without agreeing on the role of some kind of ethics. (...) :-) (...) My first thought was that you were probably lying. After all, what adult would say that? You claim to be fifteen and that (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [snip] Please respect Jeremy's wish to end his part in this debate... -Suz (22 years ago, 24-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Suzanne, I don't understand the implications of your note. As the administrator here your words have a special gravity that seems to color what might otherwise be a simple statement. Do you mean "(I'm the admind and) you are hereby notified (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's just like it looks: The LUGNET Admin (Suzanne Rich) posted a polite request. (...) Topic ignored, if your post had not continued direct questioning of Jeremy, it wouldn't have gotten my attention and resulted in my post, no. But your (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Suz, What would have been the consequence (if any) had he or others chosen to ignore your request? Basically, what is the difference between a request from Suzanne Rich, LUGNET Admin and Suz, LUGNET Member #2? Jude XFUT .admin.general (22 years ago, 27-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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