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    War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Larry Pieniazek
   To counter the propaganda run a few weeks ago the LP supposedly placed an ad in today's USA Today. Here is the info on it: (URL) here is the ad: (URL) pdf, may be a bit slow to d/l) Did anyone see it? I don't normally get that paper except when (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Scott Arthur
     Strange, I would have thought that a greater priority for the LP would have been protecting the rights of those held by your government in Guantanemo Bay or even those held without formal charge in jails in the USA? But I expect there are few votes (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Richard Marchetti
     (...) Yeah, probably. I liked the ad. It reminded me of the better Robbie Conal or Barbara Krueger stuff, some of Conal's posters can be seen at: (URL) esp.: (URL) Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 26-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Ross Crawford
     (...) My guess is the "War on Drugs" probably supports some politicians & businessmen, too. For that matter, there's probably politicians & businessmen that support terrorism. The average Joe probably (unknowingly) supports terrorism indirectly in (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Scott Arthur
     | Their site doesn't say how they're gonna pay for the extra resources needed to | treat drug abuse as a medical problem. That is because the LP is about ideas, not solutions. The LP should be able, as a fringe party, to raise the level of debate. (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Scott Arthur
     | The big irony here is that drug production in Afghanistan has increased | since the Taliban were removed. No doubt that will reduce the price on the | street a little (but not by 16999/17000) - which appears to be an LP goal? | ;) Lastly - it (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Christopher L. Weeks
   (...) Excellent! Do you have any way of knowing what attention the ad attracted? Has the LP web site had a burst of hits or mail? I hope that this does raise awareness of the reality of things. Chris (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Scott Arthur
     (...) Would you expect a drop? (...) What? Do you think that people do not realise that the War on Drugs raises the price of "drugs" on the street and that organised crime (in its many forms) benefit? I think they do. What, perhaps, they have not (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) The LP mailing list received an update. I could post it if there's interest. The drug czar didn't take the bait, unfortunately, so it did generate some other coverage, but not quite the controversy that was hoped for. (If the DEA or whoever (...) (22 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Richard Marchetti
     (...) Why be so generous? I think they are STILL dealing drugs, as are many members of most of our law enforcement agencies. My assertion is and essentially HAS TO BE correct -- how else could drugs flood our streets and prisons? Moreover, the only (...) (22 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Maybe, maybe not. Never ascribe to malice what stupidity (or empire building) can adequately explain. Law enforcement types and their lobbyists, prison guards and their lobbyists, prison operating companies and their lobbyists... they all (...) (22 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Horst Lehner
       (...) Which doesn't say they don't also sell them drugs, even while in prison. I don't know about the US, but here in Germany, it is said to be easier to get drugs in prisons than outside. Didn't try it yet, though ;-) Greetings Horst (22 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Christopher L. Weeks
     (...) I wouldn't have any knowledge of the CIA specifically, but I agree with the logic that the only way drugs could be so prevalent is with complicit law enforcement. My buddy Aaron got a degree in criminal justice because he started out wanting (...) (22 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: War on Drugs SUPPORTS terrorists. —Scott Arthur
   (...) lol. Do you feel that there is even a chance that the average "Joe" will think that the WOD *lowers* the price of drugs on the street? I really do doubt that. I really do. (...) Perhaps many view the military costs as a price worth paying? (...) (22 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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