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Re: New Stories from the New Testament
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Hietbrink writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Hietbrink writes:
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> > > Obviously the only valid Bible is in the original KJV. :)
> > > Okay, I know, only Christians got that joke.
> >
> > Depends. I get the joke, but I'm not sure it's the joke you were
> > intending. :) (I presume you're making fun of the highly suspect
> > circumstances of the KJV's translation?)
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> There are those Christians who think that the KJV is the only valid
> translation, and that all more recent translations (NIV, NASB, RSV, etc) are
> suspect. Some of them elevate the KJV so much that it seems they even find
> the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek suspect. That's what I was joking
> about.
Ah. Okay. Well, I found it funny for a related reason--mostly that
James had the translation slanted in a way to extol monarchy and, some
suggest, Catholicism (James having been a closet Catholic as he was).
That's ironic for a lot of the extreme dogmatists, who often also
consider Catholicism to be "Christianity Lite" or something much more
sinister.
> Me, I love the KJV for the beauty of language, especially some well-known
> passages like the Christmas narrative, but I study out of the NIV for
> clearer understanding.
The language is beautiful--and traditional--because we identify it
as such. But I'd argue that any translation could be considered that
way 350 years later. :D I do wonder what hidden, now-transparent
biases might pop out of the NIV to some long-future reader?
best
LFB
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| (...) That was going to be my point as well. I would argue that every translation including the first one (ie, from the "mind of God" to the "hand of man") automatically (though not necessarily intentionally) reflects some of the biases of the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) There are those Christians who think that the KJV is the only valid translation, and that all more recent translations (NIV, NASB, RSV, etc) are suspect. Some of them elevate the KJV so much that it seems they even find the original Hebrew, (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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