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Re: New Stories from the New Testament
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Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:31:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ben Roller writes:
> In lugnet.build.ancient, Markus Wolf writes:
> > Hey Brendon,
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> Ok, this was my first problem with your post. Let's keep this kind of talk
> in off-topic where it belongs. :)
You're right on this point. My apologies.
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> Now on to my main points.
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> > It's a riot how you pick and skip and choose your verses.
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> He presented an artistic interpretation that skipped around the text that it
> was based on. I think we should allow this since he isn't claiming that his
> work is an unabridged replication. This happens thousands of times over as
> books are turned into movies and painters create life-like scenes based on
> real events.
Yes, it is this sort of interpretation...
Bob says, "I would like to explain why I don't think you should kill Johny
Walker."
Newspaper Story: Bob says, "I would like to... kill Johny Walker."
Similarly that would be like releasing the Harry Potter movie with Harry as
the bad guy. You could cut and paste the original text and create a
completely different story. Certainly anyone who has read the book would
notice and the fans would respond. This is very similar to what has
transpired between the Brick Testament and myself.
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> > Yours is a great study in creative and selective censorship
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> I would say that the Bible itself does this quite a bit. Are we to believe
> that the birth of Jesus is worth noting in several chapters of multiple
> books but the next ten years was insignificant. Oh, and then the next ten
> after the temple visit? If you want to call ommission of details
> censorship, then I think that you're saying that the Bible censors much of
> the life of Jesus.
I hope that my above paragraph answers this question. Of course it's not
the omission of details, but the selective removal of details to re-invent
the teachings that I'm talking about.
> > against the Royal Book and it's Author.
> The Royal Book? That seems a little ridiculous to me. The Bible is just
> the paper. Many Christians believe that Jews focus on the letter of the
> laws themselves more than the meaning, I'd say you're doing the same. This
> is just my opinion, but I think calling the Bible the "Royal Book" and
> opening that book only when you want to dispute another persons
> interpretation is a little silly.
Believe me I didn't just open the book for the sake of the argument. I
consider myself a pretty big fan of that famous author known as english
speakers as "God" and enjoy reading and discussing his writings. In fact,
His book has been on the best sellers list longer than any other. I'm even
an important part of a "fan club" here in town.
> Oh, and by "it's Author" I assume you are referring to God. I don't think
> that any of the depictions of God in the good Rev. Smith's work show God
> unfairly. Whatever his motives may be, I think he's doing a great job of
> depicting God as He is presented in the books.
I suppose the authority of your opinion here would depend on how well you
know the author and how familiar you are with his works. Clearly there's
dimensions left out of this "interpretation." Let's count the acts of
compassion expressed by the BT. How many of Jesus' miracles were mentioned?
Hmmm. I count zero. Maybe if the only stories and pictures I revealed
about my dad was when he was spanking me and yelling at me. You would say
he's an abusive father, right? That would be fair because I've only skipped
a few details, like when I threw rocks at the cars going by our house.
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> > I'm looking forward to finding time when I can compare and contrast
> > your other forgetful stories to "the rest of the story."
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> That seems like a great use of your time. Maybe you can teach some kids in
> your neighborhood to read while you're doing the research. Heck, even
> better would be for you to build the rest of the scenes out of Lego and put
> them up on your own web space to show us all what we're missing.
Every Friday morning at Bridgman Elementary school, grade one. But usually
I help with math. In fact, I run an after school Lego Club in our
community. Maybe we can do a similar project. We don't have the same
budget as the dear Reverend, but let me give it some thought.
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> > There are legitimate humorous and difficult scripture that deserve
> > examination but you're simply dishonest and deceptive.
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> You forgot "evil." Sheesh, "dishonest and deceptive"?!? I hope you really
> teach BPS not to share his views of the Bible anymore. I mean, if you can't
> get it exactly right to everyone's liking, you shouldn't even present the
> Bible at all, right?
He can share his views of the Bible. I'm just pointing out that he
deliberately missed some very key points of the story and it's not a mystery
why. Did I try to shut down his site? Three announcements of the Brick
Testament on Lugnet and I'm the first lurker to finally voice a dissenting
view. I too have a right to free speech.
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> > Great Lego work.
> > Clever sense of humor.
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> Now that's more like it.
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> > ...I noticed that you neatly neglected the passage where Jesus healed the man
> > who's ear Peter cut off,
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> I notice that you took the time to mention the incompleteness of BPS's
> selections of scripture, but you convieniently failed to critize that Jesus
> only mentions one line from Psalm 22 when he's on the cross. Surely he
> should have recited the entire 31 verses if he wanted to get his meaning
> accross (no pun intended.)
>
> Lighten up and get back to building. :)
> Ben Roller
Let's see, how can we drop enough words to rewrite "Father forgive them for
they know not what they've done." to say, "Kill da Wabbit!" :O) You're
right, Ben. It really does take an artist.
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| (...) I am the first to admit that I have selectively chosen which stories from the Bible, and in certain cases which parts of which stories to illustrate on The Brick Testament. But I do not agree that my editing of passages from the Bible is (...) (23 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Ok, this was my first problem with your post. Let's keep this kind of talk in off-topic where it belongs. :) Now on to my main points. (...) He presented an artistic interpretation that skipped around the text that it was based on. I think we (...) (23 years ago, 12-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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