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Subject:	*Re: The militia* saved flight 93 from a worse fate...**
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:55:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Horst Lehner writes: > Hello Chris, > > > One might wonder how much less destruction there would have been on 11 > > September if some or many of the passengers had been armed. > > Given the fact that even in the Sep. 11 disaster, less people were probably > killed than are killed in a "normal" year by use of guns in the US, I tend > to prefer NOT to legalize taking firearms into planes. In 1999, there were 8,718 firearm related homocides in the US. So you're probably right. But the broad-picture statistics suggest that as the concealed-carry rate increases, the violent crime rate decreases. So I'd claim that that high number was in part caused by our firearm prohibitions. Further, whether or not this recent disaster compares to a normal year (I'm not seeing what conclusions you can draw from that), it would be highly valuable (at least to me) to have prevented the 6000+ deaths that resulted from this recent terrorism. > Maybe a few armed policemen, conservatively clothed, but certainly not the > larger public ... I'm not entirely opposed to sky marshals, but I'd rather the airlines supply the guards. That way each consumer could choose to pay or not pay for the added security. Chris

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		Re: The militia saved flight 93 from a worse fate...
(...) Speaking of which, I'm not too keen on what I seem to be hearing about the airline bailout bill. Some background... The exact story of why it is that the airlines are in charge of gate security and sort of not in charge as well is very (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: The militia saved flight 93 from a worse fate...
(...) But the effects of that decision outweigh the need for the individual to preserve that decision-making right, unless only the individual is going to be affected by the decision. That is, if a plane is to be hijacked and used to kill several (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: The militia saved flight 93 from a worse fate...
Hello Chris, (...) Well, I don't want to dive into a firearms discussion here. What I wanted to oppose is the idea that air travel is safer when firearms are allowed to be taken into planes by passengers. (...) And how can people working in (...) (23 years ago, 22-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The militia saved flight 93 from a worse fate...
Hello Chris, (...) Given the fact that even in the Sep. 11 disaster, less people were probably killed than are killed in a "normal" year by use of guns in the US, I tend to prefer NOT to legalize taking firearms into planes. Maybe a few armed (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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