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(...) myself (...) If you aim a gun at me, (as my basic training would say), you'd better have a dammed good reason for wanting to kill me-or have you never had formal firearms training? If you aim at someone, then the ONLY possible reason is that (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe I had some stray electrons move the knife and gun around, just like Larry P. has happen occasionally :) (it should have been easier to kill with a gun than a knife...that'd be better eh?) James (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, it could be argued you ARE using ineffectual ammo ;-) The most destructive is that which expands and STAYS in the body, tearing it to shreds. Oh wait, dum-dums are illegal. Nevermind, stick with your hollowpoints and massive exit wounds (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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So the only one that isn't a victim is the non-biological father forced to pay child support? That's the largest pile of bovine dung I've ever heard! (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I meant he wouldn't be much of a victim to be forced to pay child support due to his previous action. I thought that was obvious. I KNOW *I* don't have any children in the world, and never will. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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As always, snipped. (...) I go to the range enough that I don't often miss. But... the bullets I use go through the body and then through the wall anyway, even if I don't miss. I don't like to use something ineffectual. But others do miss. Accidents (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hugely snipped... (...) Precisely. And what the lord(1) giveth, the lord taketh away. That's my point. The US is (theoretically(2)) constrained in what rights it can usurp because the US is founded on the principle that rights come from the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So, tell me again, WHY in the heck do we have to get a liscense to purchase amunition? What's wrong with a drivers liscence or other proof-of-age certificate? Oh, how dumb of me, could it be that there IS a reason we have to shell out huge (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe that you just severly contradicted your entire preceding argument. (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How do those numbers compare in the UK? What if you add in all non-firearm (non vehicular) murders? (...) I'd bet so. (...) Maybe Brittons (is that right?) are less likely to kill one another. You can't suggest a causal relationship based on (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) be (...) First, I really (really!) meant consumer firearms. Military contract is a bit different. Now, the purpose (if you mean _my_ purpose) when I travel with a concealed firearm is not to kill people. It is to defend myself. I have defended (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If he wasn't informed about the pregnancy in a timely manner and if he would have willingly taken on the responsiblility had he known, I think it's fair to say he's a victim in all this too. Maggie C. (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 400,000 in the US, which is now one of the lowest smoking rate nations in the world. You bet your ass tobacco is more dangerous than firearms! Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) there. So you wouldn't feel victimized if you found out that you had a ten year old son that had been kept from you? I would. Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Worldwide? Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The gun manufacturer designed it to appeal to people with some cash. So that they would give the cash to the manufacturer. Whether or not the gun kills people, looks pretty, fires blanks only, or can be used as a hammer in a pinch doesn't (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Once the man is known as Dad in the child's eyes, he is no longer just another man. As to why the child should be given greater consideration, even if you don't believe it is the right thing to do, from a pragmatic standpoint it is better for (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope, simply not true. How many deaths by knife are there in comparison to those by gun in the US each year? I'm willing to bet that the death rate by firearms in the UK is substantially less than the death rate by firearms in the US , eh? I'm (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While I guess one could call me a freeloader for not being at least trained in the use of firearms and not owning one, I have to concur absolutely with the above. Unfortunately, so many of my fellow citizens didn't pay enough attention to (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Statistics be thrown out the window - if you're in a position where no matter how bad the argument gets you'll haul a gun on your own family then gun control isn't going to help -- you can just as easily use anything else around the house for (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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