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  Re: The nature of being (was Aids, Vegetarianism etc.)
 
(...) Even if rights were a fiction, I'd agree with you that to avoid causing suffering is better. But, fundamentally, from a bedrock philosophical basis, we have no ultimate way to condemn evil if creatures do not objectively have a right to (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vegetarianism etc. (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) you (...) Nope. I would chose the human option, but not because I believe that it is capable of experiencing a "Better existence." I'm familiar with it, I know it's OK, I'd go with the known over the unknown in this case (unless I had reason (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vegetarianism etc. (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) It still has enormous theological value; the difference is that it is now read and understood in light of our fuller understanding of God as compiled in the New Testament. (...) Ok...I concede the point that it was inconsistent to include (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I've been (mis) quoted
 
(...) I was quoted by the Richmond Times Dispatch recently about the ILOVEYOU headache, and they caught me while I was driving between meetings -- I gave lots of info, but the starting quote for me they used was "...and we just forged ahead and (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vegetarianism etc. (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) Why not do away witht the old testament then - as part of scripture, only - obviously it would retain historical value. (...) Uh...no. I misread and now feel foolish. :-) (Actually, yeah...yeah...that's the ticket, you can catch him at the (...) (24 years ago, 31-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vegetarianism etc. (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) Why not do away witht the old testament then - as part of scripture, only - obviously it would retain historical value. (...) Uh...no. I misread and now feel foolish. :-) (Actually, yeah...yeah...that's the ticket, you can catch him at the (...) (24 years ago, 31-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  I've been (mis) quoted
 
(URL) guess I should be flattered that other than Messman and Sims, the CEOs, and two analysts, I was the only name quoted. But I'm not. I am more annoyed that the part about how much I loved the company, and the part about how culture was an (...) (24 years ago, 31-May-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?
 
(...) Fair enough. (...) Very honest. Very nice. :D eric (24 years ago, 30-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vegetarianism etc. (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) Correction to a poorly-worded statement; I meant to say: The afterlife will be a poorer place if it lacks animal life, but I believe that animals will be present. James (24 years ago, 30-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vegetarianism etc. (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) me (...) of (...) Christopher: I haven't been offended by how you have expressed your views; in fact, I enjoy a friendly clash of arms. (...) I believe that gratuitous killing includes killing for sport, but I'm not prepared to say that (...) (24 years ago, 30-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personal Responsibility (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) Agreed. (24 years ago, 28-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: >>BRICKYARD WARNING <<
 
(...) I think Matt Martin was perfectly fine in trying a public method of communicating, and of making his fellow hobbyists aware that there might be an issue. While I might have quibbled a bit with the exact wording, we can't all be at the same (...) (24 years ago, 28-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Buyer warnings (was: Re: BRICKYARD WARNING)
 
(...) While I agree more than you think (it takes me an hour to make $5, and I only get a chance to work three hours a week, normally) - asking about an auction/sale/trade in a public forum like lugnet or RTL before emailing the seller can cause a (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personal Responsibility (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
James Simpson wrote in message ... (...) deal (...) 100% (...) Chris (and I) have never said that the "victim" is ever 100% responsible. We have just argued that the victim does have SOME responsibility. Thankfully North Carolina doesn't see it (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: >>BRICKYARD WARNING <<
 
(...) While I have not used Brickyard, I certainly have used AucZilla. We don't see these "warnings" for AucZilla because Todd is very up front about the fact that it is a long time between end of auction and shipment (and we certainly see plenty of (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Vegetarianism etc. (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
James, upon reading through your response to my last longish note on this it struck me that I was kind of beating the same topic, and that I sounded antagonistic to you as a religious person. While I disagree with you, and it makes it harder to (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personal Responsibility (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) It's hard for me to fault them too much, when the government (by your account) seems to have gone out of its way to make this happen. (...) He should have negotiated for a better employment contract. This scenario seems bizzarre in this land (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Personal Responsibility (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) Agreed. (...) Yes, but life is a terribly complex and complicated thing. People must deal with their mistakes, but often it is not reasonable or right to make them 100% responsible. (...) Regarding Lego, unfortunatly, I have not made yet made (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?
 
(...) I'm still not sure that I follow you. My answer, if I understand the question correctly, is that I believe that it is a moral evil to kill animals gratuitously. (No doubt we'll find some common ground here, but disagree as to what exactly (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Personal Responsibility (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) Well, I do think that people are victims. I just also think that they bear responsibility for their situations. And I largely think that people are victims because they don't see to it that they won't be. (...) Yes. And as such, people need to (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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