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(...) benefit (...) The point I was illustrating (not clear enough, sorry) was not to assume the guy was lying about his off-line friend. James (URL) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) That is precisely the kind of situation for which a reserve price is meant. I'm usually not a fan of reserve prices either, but they are indeed a good alternative to high minimum starting bids, as you pointed out. <snipped him pointing (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoa! Back up a second there! I neither said nor implied any such thing! What I _did_ say was that I treat e-bay like I treat a garage sale. A place to get Lego. What I _did_ say was that selling through e-bay takes Lego out of the community. (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How is that a case in point? You didn't sell anything in AucZILLA VIII -- I did. (And I've never shilled, and never will.) --Todd (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks again :) Yet if using an outside auction service is detrimental, then it doesn't matter how how much good I do--I'm still responsible for detrimental actions. Which is why the question of detriment is important. (...) Ahhh...I think (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is it sold by eBay? ;-) --Todd (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, bwappo@ee.net (Adam Yulish) writes: [...] (...) I don't know if it's -worth- that much, but I was happy to get it for $400. (...) But the box and instructions were in mint condition. Essentially, I paid $395 for the box (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't jump to conclusions... I would be inclined to give the seller the benefit of the doubt. As a case in point, easily 1/3 of the items I bid on in Auczilla VIII were for 'off-line' friends, and that jumped to about 1/2 of my bids for (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm, Good point. I would be inclined to argue that the good you bring into the community more than outweighs the (contestable) detriment of using an outside auction service. Actually, it would be more than an inclination - I am arguing it. :) (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've bought several Lego items through eBay. Larry says about 20% of his stuff is coming from eBay. I know other people, including other fairly heavy buyers, do the same. Exactly who gets to decide who is and who isn't part of this community (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking as someone who has sold stuff in many places (RTL, Lugnet, Yahoo!, eBay, my own websites, etc) it wouldn't frustrate the hell out of me. Don't make the assumption that the only people selling on eBay are outsiders that the rest of our (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes it does. I was researching a seller's previous items sold and noticed once that the seller was also the high bidder on an item. I questioned the seller and his reply was that a friend without Internet access wanted the item so he placed (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would never shill. I did put a reserve price on the auction, though. Maybe one that is too high, given the slow bidding, but then again most eBay bidding takes place in the last few hours/minutes. I used to hate reserve prices, and I still (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, they have. I know of at least one commercial product produced to allow you to do just that and more. (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppose exceptions are possible, but other than momentary fluctuations, The general "level" of set worth continues to be pretty even across the board. (...) <Adam digresses for a moment> Are you serious? The 6807 is worth *that* *much*? It (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) Honestly, I don't know, but I can't imagine it would be any other way. (...) <laughing> To me, that's the seller equivalent of the same problem I have with griping about being outbid at the last minute. Unless some really unusual (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But is 5-10 minutes really enough time to make a true difference? What if you're sleeping, or eating dinner, or in a meeting at work, or really really constipated? Or what if you're on a modem and your connection drops a couple times? BTW, (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) And that I have no explanation for. I agree 100%, but I cannot explain this "seduction", nor why it happens to some people and not others. <snip> (...) I understand (and thank you! :) but if using an external auction service is (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I guess the question there (eBay) is -- if you bid on your own thing on eBay, does it show up as a bid from you, the seller? A seller bidding on his/her own item at eBay shouldn't be evil (still dumb, maybe, but not evil) -- *if* it's clear to (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ^^^...^^^ (not a flame, just a comment) Please be careful about the phrase "lugnet auctions" -- I think what you really meant here is "auctions conducted in the lugnet.market.auction newsgroup." "LUGNET auctions" don't yet exist, but will (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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