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(...) Well, personally I'm glad he isn't Prime Minister anymore, I was for Barak. I'm glad things are working better now, and talks with Syria are developing, even though I'm not there to see it off personally ;-) -Shiri CP to .debate (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.il, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Multiple times, I think, although it hasn't always been you on my dance card. (...) I highly suspect that we are of similar minds on this issue, and just keep insisting on different definitions. My position in a nutshell, morals=subjective, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John DiRienzo wrote: <snippage> (...) Ahh, I think Libertarianism would be an excellent system; I just shared James pessimism that it would have a hard time working given today's entitlement mentality. Lazy people want things given to them rather (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. Opportunity was closer to equal then than it is now, but it still wasn't entirely equal. But I'll conceed the point. ;) (...) Then we're of the same mind here. I'll try and remember that next time I flare up at some LMF. :) James (URL) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that's my point. I'm saying that good is beyond what the particular fancy of a given society says it is. We are not the author of good, we are the seekers of it (hopefully). (...) We'll soon see about that;-) (...) All of these (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, you crossed categories - "crack" is a form of cocaine, obviously a coca-derived drug and not an opiate. -- jthompson@esker.com "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily" (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We've been around this particular mulberry bush before and I continue to hold with the stance that "good" and "morals" can be objective, correct ones are based on life affirmation. Further, I hold that I can very well label a particular (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yowza! When did this society exist? I'd also love to return to it! It must be millennia since everyone had an equal chance of getting rich, and certainly never in the US! Dave! (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK, change that to ANYwhere in America or Canada. But yes, it's biased. That's the point! That's the society I want to see us return toward, a society in which everyone knows that if they work hard and are clever, they've got just as much (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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(...) Whoops! Forgot the footnote: 1:Which, assuming He exists, IMHO He hasn't(2). When the proverbial omnipotent being wants to provide us with an absolute morality, we will all KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what it is. 2:What He has provided (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I disagree here, but I'm a cynical little punk. :) I think people in general are only as industrious as they have to be. I don't think the mean is quite as low as "lazy" tends to imply, but I do think the mean is too low for a system that (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Anything based on morals (which "good" typically is) IS subjective, and can never be anything else, at least until God (in whatever guise you like, assuming you believe in Him) provides us with an absolute morality.(1) Neither you nor I can (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) LOL! We'll see, Larry. Scott S. (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Bicentennial Man and Immortality (was Re: Who James Isn't (was:Re: New Castle Sucks (so far...)
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Point taken. You're absolutely right. Savor the moment, it comes so RARELY in discourse with me... To be actually immortal means to not be able to choose not to be immortal. However, I think for this discussion we are using Immortality (incorrectly, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Simplistic answer is that they DID have cash to spend, it was economic boycott that finally broke the "back of the bus" thing with buses, and was going to break down a great deal more quite soon. As for the legal barriers, Laws REQUIRING (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Bicentennial Man and Immortality (was Re: Who James Isn't (was:Re: New Castle Sucks (so far...)
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(...) That's _not_ what immortal means. By definition, immortal means _not_ able to die or be killed. Not by a .25 bullet, not by an A10 2 kg depleted uranium round, not by a tac-nuke, not by a full-blown 20 megaton H-bomb, not by hurling yourself (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So how would the situation be in the southern states? The black population _didn't_ have cash to spend, and they didn't have much chance of improving that either. Would gays be open about being gay like they are now, without the entire (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Best Lock instruction scans (Re: Best Lock Adverstising
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(...) Despite our Bicentennial Man issues 8^), I agree with you here 100%. I'm pretty sure that all the Best-Lock sets available to date are still available, if not still in production, so it probably isn't cool to scan the instructions yet. What (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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(...) Do tell. (...) That was a joke, son. (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Opiates and Coca-derivatives _are_ generally harmful for human use, unless done under guidance. Most humans tend to not be able to provide that guidance to themselves, as seen in all the addicts. AFAIK, various opiates are legally available on (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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