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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Date: 
Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:08:43 GMT
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James Brown wrote:

Lar said:
2. People are lazy because they are *enabled* to be lazy. There weren't
very many lazy people on the american frontier 100 years ago.

Biased test sample. 100 years ago, there were lots of lazy people who chose to
stay where they were instead of going to the american frontier.

OK, change that to ANYwhere in America or Canada.

But yes, it's biased. That's the point!  That's the society I want to
see us return toward, a society in which everyone knows that if they
work hard and are clever, they've got just as much chance as the next
guy of getting rich, and if they don't want to work, they are going to
starve.

It'll take time to shake off 60+ years of bad habits but it's doable. We have
to break the "entitlement mentality". People aren't entitled to anything,
really, other than rights protection.

Hmm.  I think I'm entitled to anything I work for, and anything I'm given -
assuming the giver worked for it (or that it was worked for somewhere back
along the giving chain).

Rights protection == keeping what you've worked for or were freely
given. All rights are property rights.

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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) So the american frontier is what you want to return to? I've got news for you: That also requires returning to the technological and productivity levels of then. The reason those two are so much higher now than they were then is (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I disagree here, but I'm a cynical little punk. :) I think people in general are only as industrious as they have to be. I don't think the mean is quite as low as "lazy" tends to imply, but I do think the mean is too low for a system that (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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