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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Date: 
Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:27:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
James Brown wrote:
Lar said:
2. People are lazy because they are *enabled* to be lazy. There weren't
very many lazy people on the american frontier 100 years ago.

Biased test sample. 100 years ago, there were lots of lazy people who chose
to
stay where they were instead of going to the american frontier.

OK, change that to ANYwhere in America or Canada.

But yes, it's biased. That's the point!  That's the society I want to
see us return toward, a society in which everyone knows that if they
work hard and are clever, they've got just as much chance as the next
guy of getting rich, and if they don't want to work, they are going to
starve.

Hmm. Opportunity was closer to equal then than it is now, but it still wasn't
entirely equal.  But I'll conceed the point. ;)

It'll take time to shake off 60+ years of bad habits but it's doable. We
have to break the "entitlement mentality". People aren't entitled to
anything, really, other than rights protection.

Hmm.  I think I'm entitled to anything I work for, and anything I'm given -
assuming the giver worked for it (or that it was worked for somewhere back
along the giving chain).

Rights protection == keeping what you've worked for or were freely
given. All rights are property rights.

Then we're of the same mind here.  I'll try and remember that next time I
flare up at some LMF. :)

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/



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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I disagree here, but I'm a cynical little punk. :) I think people in general are only as industrious as they have to be. I don't think the mean is quite as low as "lazy" tends to imply, but I do think the mean is too low for a system that (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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