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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Date: 
Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:27:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> James Brown wrote:
> > Lar said:
> > > 2. People are lazy because they are *enabled* to be lazy. There weren't
> > > very many lazy people on the american frontier 100 years ago.
> > 
> > Biased test sample. 100 years ago, there were lots of lazy people who chose
> > to
> > stay where they were instead of going to the american frontier.
> 
> OK, change that to ANYwhere in America or Canada.
> 
> But yes, it's biased. That's the point!  That's the society I want to
> see us return toward, a society in which everyone knows that if they
> work hard and are clever, they've got just as much chance as the next
> guy of getting rich, and if they don't want to work, they are going to
> starve.

Hmm. Opportunity was closer to equal then than it is now, but it still wasn't
entirely equal.  But I'll conceed the point. ;)

> > > It'll take time to shake off 60+ years of bad habits but it's doable. We
> > > have to break the "entitlement mentality". People aren't entitled to
> > > anything, really, other than rights protection.
> > 
> > Hmm.  I think I'm entitled to anything I work for, and anything I'm given -
> > assuming the giver worked for it (or that it was worked for somewhere back
> > along the giving chain).
> 
> Rights protection == keeping what you've worked for or were freely
> given. All rights are property rights.

Then we're of the same mind here.  I'll try and remember that next time I
flare up at some LMF. :)

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/



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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I disagree here, but I'm a cynical little punk. :) I think people in general are only as industrious as they have to be. I don't think the mean is quite as low as "lazy" tends to imply, but I do think the mean is too low for a system that (...) (27 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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