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(...) My comment was also meant to cover expedient “trial” of the chap caught abusing prisoners in Iraq… I think it lasted ~1 hour. (...) I don't have time to list my concerns about SH’s appearance yesterday. It is suffice to say that I have yet to (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sovereign, maybe, democratic no way. At least until proper elections take place, Iraq is still a technical dictatorship. So call it whatever else you want to at this stage. (...) You may be right, but I wouldn't be so vehement in condemning (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Awww. "Haliburton" again???? (...) Awww. More "puppet" talk? (...) We always could, even from SH if we wanted! (...) But that is precisely my point-- OBL was acting independently from the policies of his country, so equating the nationality of (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) At the request of the sovereign, democratic nation of Iraq. (...) Look again. You'll see elections are on the horizon-- a concept quite foreign to dictators. (...) I have no response to the ignorance of this one. (...) If that is not the (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The last time I looked Bush: had ~140,000 troops in Iraq. had installed a dictator in iraq. was conducting show trials there. If that is not control, what is? (...) ...and where is that oil flowing to? Your "SUV" perhaps? (...) I'm not (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John's right. Haliburton will make it's money just from infrastructure contracts, the oil in this case is almost secondary. And anyway, the puppet democrazy that we establish isn't going to be hostile to us even if the people are. So we'll get (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh well, I guess the US should just try to take over the whole world now - they have no more credibility to lose. ROSCO (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Fine; put it this way: there are a great deal of countries on both sides. Saying "the world clearly thinks it isn't obvious" is a gross distortion. (...) Not controlling the flow of oil (or do you have cites for that?), but enabling the free (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmmm appears I may have got some suspect intelligence on that one. ROSCO (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yep, just got back from camping and I sees that the Lie-berals managed to squeak thru. Now with the wonderfulness that is a 'minority gov't', Canada can possibly look forward to another election within two years (the longest minority gov't in (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bush Jr: "freedom is beautiful". Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not sure (URL) he> was ever there, but he's not there now... "In June 2003, Padilla was designated an enemy combatant at the order of President George W. Bush. As as result of this designation, he was removed from the U.S. criminal justice (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (Puts on pedantic hat again) I believe there has been at least one US citizen at said club, name of Jose Padilla, but maybe he has been moved? ROSCO (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mmmm, and just when I was thinking that we should quit the allegiance to the Queen thingie, and get all republicy. Particularly me with my pro-Irish sentiments. It turns out that we have already essentially signed up as a US state (and a (...) (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mmmmmm. I think that terrorist organisations the world over probably each have something similar in their manifesto. Richard Still baldly going... (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) SH would have far too much to say. I'll eat my hat if we get to hear his defence before the US elections... Bush has too much to hide. (...) Yes. But they may have been asked to ask. ;) The (URL) ICRC> may have helped things along: "Washington (...) (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I see your point; I suppose I have more faith in your countrymen's self-respect. ;) Anyhow, without the support of Tony B.Liar et al it is doubtful that Bush would be in the mess he is today. The past week or so has shown that his (& the (...) (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Looks like you were wrong ;) I'm anxiously awaiting our own federal election some time later this year. What with that, a US election in Nov, and Tony Blair showing a bit of spirit, maybe the world will seem a different place next year. Then (...) (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, Hussein hasn't been charged yet either, and it's arguable whether or not he will get a "fair & open" trial, but I find it amazing how the US is falling over itself to hand him over, while the Cuba detainees sit & wait for a tribunal that (...) (20 years ago, 30-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I have hopes for Ralph's Son, Uri Nader -lenny (20 years ago, 29-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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