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Re: Fair use and allusion?
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Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:58:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
  
  
   Seems obvious even to you that is NOT about freeing the people of Iraq, but controlling the flow of oil (which was flowing anyway, just not our way).

Not controlling the flow of oil (or do you have cites for that?),

The last time I looked Bush:
  1. had ~140,000 troops in Iraq.
At the request of the sovereign, democratic nation of Iraq.

Sovereign, maybe, democratic no way. At least until proper elections take place, Iraq is still a technical dictatorship. So call it whatever else you want to at this stage.

  
  
  1. had installed a dictator in iraq.
Look again. You’ll see elections are on the horizon-- a concept quite foreign to dictators.

  
  1. was conducting show trials there.

I have no response to the ignorance of this one.

You may be right, but I wouldn’t be so vehement in condemning Scott’s claim. Actually, and given that Milosevic’s trial has not yet finished in the Hague, I don’t know what exactly are the precedents for Saddam’s trial (nor can I understand the pretense cover of “universal acceptance” of this court’s verdict). Either Saddam can be tried in the Hague, or Milosevic in Belgrade... makes some sense at least. If a court is designed to try only one case and then disbanded, it’s validity is somewhat lame, wouldn’t you say? It ceases to be part of a Justice system and becomes a vindictive system.


Pedro



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  I fear we are about to create yet another martyr.
 
(...) My comment was also meant to cover expedient “trial” of the chap caught abusing prisoners in Iraq… I think it lasted ~1 hour. (...) I don't have time to list my concerns about SH’s appearance yesterday. It is suffice to say that I have yet to (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Fair use and allusion?
 
(...) At the request of the sovereign, democratic nation of Iraq. (...) Look again. You'll see elections are on the horizon-- a concept quite foreign to dictators. (...) I have no response to the ignorance of this one. (...) If that is not the (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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