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(...) I'd agree with this, it's not in contention. (since I am one of the members of the set of people you describe) (...) Fair enough. I took your meaning as: "to be taken seriously by others" which I think is a reasonable meaning to have taken, (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here's the bit in question, if I'm reading you correctly: Stop by the website of the American Nationalist Union if you want to see some serious, non-Democrat criticism of Dubya. My use of "serious" in this context coincides with (URL) this (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I misunderstood what you meant by "serious" then, or you misused the word. (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OK, The support needed is rather different, though. You need to support with logic that my characterisations of Moore somehow falsify what I said.\ I need to support by showing that Moore isn't factual, and that his assertions don't follow (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) Hot off the presses!> Our Copresident seems to embrace a colorful rhetorical style that could cause he Congressional record to lose its "PG" rating. I wonder--will Cheney be forced by the FCC to pay an unreasonably huge fine because of (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ah, I see. Sorry. I thought you meant that the group opposed the airing of the film itself, rather than the commercials advertising for the film. I'll need to think about that. (...) Moore's actions may collaterally support Kerry, but Moore (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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If the cost is (URL) $3,400> per household, what is the value of the benefits? Scott A (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I enjoyed (URL) this> about the same group. Scott A (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Heh. No--I only found the site at all because some well-meaning activist left a copy of the organization's newsletter on my windshield, and I was so horrified by the xenophobia and isolationism that I couldn't resist visiting the site itself. (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Because the willful choice not to support your argument is indistinguishable from forfeiting the argument, I accept this as your forfeiture. If it is not your intent to forfeit, then I invite you to support your argument, as you have demanded (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Seriously, only a thinker could come up with such a strategy. (...) It is also commonly applied in classroom management and even juvenile delinquency rehabilitation. It's an awsomely powerful technique that reinforces the notion that kids will (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wow that's a 1st. My firewall thinks that site is too "aggressive" for my innocent eyes... Dave, are you trying to radicalise us? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'd only have a problem with this if the advert's content subjectively criticises Bush's record. Does it? If I were you, I'd be more concerned about bias in the news media. I read (URL) yesterday> that after spending $80,000,000(1) on an (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You could well be right. I don't know who came up with it. I recall being a bit surprised myself the first time I heard it being applied in practice. Since then I have seen it work successfully on a factory floor, in a sales force, and in a (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (snip) (...) I think your analogy is faulty. The group is specifically concerned about TV commercial time. (...) I can't remember where I heard this, and my attempts to locate the info were unsuccessful. Let me get back to you on that if I (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Your command of the obvious is impressive. Sorry I didn't snip the "or pay our dues" part; glad you found the "imprecision" amusing. Pettifogging makes boring conversation IMO. For instance if I were to rejoin by saying that your use of "its" (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I love the imprecision of this :-) Perhaps 'it is not possible for the US to pay its dues' - and its not like the US doesn't have buckets of money, so presumably its debt to the world (personified in many ways by the UN) is overwhelmingly (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The evidence has been presented here in the past and I'm not inclined to dig it up again. (...) Cites please? I'm not pro-corporate by any stretch of the imagination, unless you're anti-capitalist and don't see the distinction between (...) (20 years ago, 24-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Two points 1) Some of the stuff that's one link away from that website talks about conspiracies of Illuminati and Zionists and etc to impose a New World Order. I'm not sure how seriously that site's going to be taken based on that particular (...) (20 years ago, 24-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) By that reasoning, FoxNews, the National Register, and The Wall Street Journal should likewise be regulated as pro-Bush political commercials. (...) Are they? I haven't heard that--do you have a citation? And even if the DNC is buying tickets, (...) (20 years ago, 24-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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