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  Re: Once again, the Supreme Court proves to be gutless
 
(...) I've wondered whether conservatives would cringe or rejoice at this gutless attempt at sidestepping the issue, since the only real message that it sends is that schools should control children, not their parents. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Been Google Bombing???
 
I saw this article in today's paper and it just made me think of OTD- (URL) to building (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Once again, the Supreme Court proves to be gutless
 
They'll find any excuse they can to avoid the truly "tough"(1) issues these days. (URL) I don't consider this a tough issue, but it's politically tough, and the SC is pretty much in the political branch of govt these days. -- Tom Stangl *(URL) (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Real Waste
 
(...) Is this considered an issue in the US? Apart from the odd mindlessly populist talk radio presenter, its not here. Its hard to know whether Don's being insightful, inciteful, sarcastic, or just pointlessly talkative. I am trying hard to (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "free" at the point of delivery
 
(...) I never mentioned the US. Take your blinders off, or open your eyes. I know. It's Monday. (...) Exactly what I'm talking about. It should not be free at the point of delivery because that simply produces over-educated idealists with no concept (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: when you change the facts
 
(...) Who cares about Rugby League? That said, I'm now (URL) loosing> interest in Union too. Scott A (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  "free" at the point of delivery
 
(...) I have no idea what you are talking about; I have never set foot in a US university. As an aside, I understand university "professors" in the US do not get paid out of term-time? (...) Read what I said. It is only "free" at the point of (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste Re: More waste (was Re: More Orwell, for everyone!
 
(...) Perhaps, but that doesn't help us right the balance in in your proposal above. (...) I'm truly surprised you haven't suggested one obvious solution. Why not let the government regulate the wages of those overpaid, barely working university (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Fashion News)
 
(...) Yeah, but quoting song lyrics is so much more fun. In a way, I suppose that is my point. :) Don (20 years ago, 12-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: when you change the facts
 
(...) Now this would be NEWS ! Can't this fashion victim just leave us alone. (...) Next thing they will tell us, is that H.Paul is representing New Zealand in International Rugby League Test matches. (20 years ago, 12-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Fashion News)
 
(...) Goodness. There's a lot more to it than that. I was surprised that you discount it so easily, but that's my mistake. Obviously I should expect that there are avidly pro-establishment folks who treat naysayers with the same disdain I feel when (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: when you change the facts
 
(...) Happy to defer to the Depeche Mode experts. As always, can only talk with certainty about what it means to me :-) Richard Still baldly going (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  when you change the facts
 
(...) I'm not sure I agree that that is what the song is about. I think it is saying there are two types of news stories (facts): Real news: "Bomb blast victim fights for life". Celebrity tittle-tattle: "Princess Di is wearing a new dress". Gore's (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Fashion News)
 
(...) Don, If you really think that is what I'm doing, please just show us the "facts" and prove me wrong. You'll find it much easier than quoting song lyrics to make a point... if you have one! ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Quick Fashion)
 
(...) Personally, I (URL) Can’t Get Enough>. ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste Re: More waste (was Re: More Orwell, for everyone!
 
(...) The latter. (...) Entry should be based on evidence of previous educational attainment (e.g. school results). Good school kids normally make good UG students. Basically, nobody who meets the entrance standards should be rejected because they (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Real Waste Re: More waste (was Re: More Orwell, for everyone!
 
(...) Good students have desire and ability. Good courses should only take students with both qualities... … to do anything else is a waste of everyone’s time. (...) Why so? Or are you too lazy to explain yourself? The song is rather dated now, but (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Fashion News)
 
(...) Yes, but simply reprinting the counter-clockwise spin is a rather poor way of "challenging" things. (...) Sorry about that. Scott pointed out the site, not me, and I didn't see the pop-ups because Mozilla filters them out. You should try it. (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Fashion News)
 
(...) An interesting choice. And what you might say with irony I say with conviction (1). These lyrics would be a fine theme. I'd say Scott is trying to change some people's 'facts', because their 'facts' just aren't. As the song points out - you (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More waste
 
(...) A very fine idea (the reducing the overall tax burden part), if there's no sufficiently constructive use to which to put the money. A very popular call too - don't waste my money on other people or the future, give it back to me. Obviously we (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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