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Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Fashion News)
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Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:46:57 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
   And since you’re quoting old pop tunes, consider these. I’d have thought this one was your motto. “You can’t change the world, but you can change the facts...”

An interesting choice.

And what you might say with irony I say with conviction (1). These lyrics would be a fine theme. I’d say Scott is trying to change some people’s ‘facts’, because their ‘facts’ just aren’t.

As the song points out - you can change the world.

You can’t change the world
But you can change the facts
And when you change the facts
You change points of view
If you change points of view
You may change a vote
And when you change a vote
You may change the world


Indeed, I venture to guess that there are respectable careers made in international affairs by changing facts here and there to support policy.

In a world of perceptions so carefully crafted by spin, challenging some of these ‘facts’ back seems almost like a duty.

And I really know next to nothing about Depeche Mode other than that the pop-ups on Don’s favourite Depeche Mode lyrics site give me the irrits, and the meaning of the name.

Richard
Still baldly going...

(1 - Yes yes I know its a quote from Picard, from an eposide I probably haven’t seen in 10 years - some of these things just stick in the memory :-)



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Quick Fashion)
 
(...) Personally, I (URL) Can’t Get Enough>. ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: The Real Waste (lyrics from Fashion News)
 
(...) Yes, but simply reprinting the counter-clockwise spin is a rather poor way of "challenging" things. (...) Sorry about that. Scott pointed out the site, not me, and I didn't see the pop-ups because Mozilla filters them out. You should try it. (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  when you change the facts
 
(...) I'm not sure I agree that that is what the song is about. I think it is saying there are two types of news stories (facts): Real news: "Bomb blast victim fights for life". Celebrity tittle-tattle: "Princess Di is wearing a new dress". Gore's (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: The Real Waste Re: More waste (was Re: More Orwell, for everyone!
 
(...) Because that doesn't account for the desire to learn. If you truly want to learn, you'll find a way to pay. Your way rewards intelligent lazy people (you?). I'd say there's a balance somewhere, but you haven't got it right either. And since (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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