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Re: when you change the facts
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:58:52 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
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And since youre quoting old pop tunes, consider these. Id have thought
this
one was your motto. You cant change the world, but you can change the
facts...
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An interesting choice.
And what you might say with irony I say with conviction (1). These lyrics
would be a fine theme. Id say Scott is trying to change some peoples
facts, because their facts just arent.
As the song points out - you can change the world.
You cant change the world
But you can change the facts
And when you change the facts
You change points of view
If you change points of view
You may change a vote
And when you change a vote
You may change the world
Indeed, I venture to guess that there are respectable careers made in
international affairs by changing facts here and there to support policy.
In a world of perceptions so carefully crafted by spin, challenging some of
these facts back seems almost like a duty.
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Im not sure I agree that that is what the song is about. I think it is
saying there are two types of news stories (facts):
- Real news: Bomb blast victim fights for life.
- Celebrity tittle-tattle: Princess Di is wearing a new dress.
Gores point is that media focus on the latter fact means that nothing is
done about the former. Therefore, changing the facts (the News Story) can
change the world.
Scott A
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Happy to defer to the Depeche Mode experts. As always, can only talk with
certainty about what it means to me :-)
Richard
Still baldly going
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Message is in Reply To:
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| (...) I'm not sure I agree that that is what the song is about. I think it is saying there are two types of news stories (facts): Real news: "Bomb blast victim fights for life". Celebrity tittle-tattle: "Princess Di is wearing a new dress". Gore's (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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