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  Re: The NFL has expanded to the point of mediocrity
 
(...) We'll see when they finally get some competition. So far, except for the ailing 49ers, they are yet to be tested. The Niners will be lucky to break .500 this season (mariucci needs to be canned). (25 years ago, 30-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The NFL has expanded to the point of mediocrity
 
How 'bout those Rams?!!!! Yeah! -- Have fun! John Auctions and Trading and More at my Lego site: (URL) & IG88888888 on AOL Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <37F16340.B4F37A70@v...er.net>... (...) point, can (...) will (...) (25 years ago, 26-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
Christopher Weeks wrote in message <380B0F8D.112B4FA6@e...se.net>... (...) may (...) it (...) given (...) road, (...) I gotta agree - if somebody dies because of a person's actions, whether intended or not, they are still dead. Instead of locking (...) (25 years ago, 26-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
<FJv3A6.J77@lugnet.com> <380CC30F.6FA2@mindspring.com> <FJv84y.79J@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) It appears to me that if the why behind a cop shooting someone is that a predetermined (...) (25 years ago, 21-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Hmm. I don't see that as being intent-driven, but circumstance-driven. It (to me) is a difference between "thou shalt not kill, unless you didn't mean to" and "thou shalt not kill, except under clearly defined circumstances" (...) Ok, to stick (...) (25 years ago, 19-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Ok, I was making an assumption that we want the maximum possible penalty for murder. It still means that we must treat all the above listed people the same as the person whose intent is unjustified murder. (...) Ah, but to do so, you're making (...) (25 years ago, 19-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) are (...) You're making assumptions. What if the penalty for murder was deportation? Or 5 years of community service? No one says it has to be prison for life. Also, there's no reason why there can't be 'state-mandated'(1) circumstances under (...) (25 years ago, 19-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Unfortuanately it seems to me that to have a workable society, we have to attempt to judge intent. Without judging intent, either murder is not a crime, and we can't punish anyone for being responsible for someone elses life ending, or there (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) Yes. Neither you nor I are capable of judging motive. We don't know why Fred ran over Sam, or why Dave ran over Paul. The only people who know that are Fred and Dave, respectively. All that we can do is judge the action. Actions are (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
(...) I agree, to a point. I think these words tend to insult people even when they're not intended to. [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING UP] [WARNING BAD WORDS COMING (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) OK, it's as voluntary as anything ever is. I don't feel responsible to make things better than they can be. (...) Well, I don't think anyone is harmed - unless I spend so much that I can't buy groceries. So the net benefit of the transactions (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) OK, I guess I don't know what 'wrong' means in a judgemental sense. I'm not even sure that I'm willing to acknowledge that it means anything. I'll listen if you want to define it though. If someone hurts my loved ones I'm pretty liberal in (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Best selection of parts to mess around with
 
<snip> (...) actually (...) Just what is wrong with those words? They are only "bad" because we think they are. It's just a self fufilling phrophecy(1) I mean they are very general purpose words, and unless used to intentionally insult someone they (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) I'm not so sure of that. Once you've got the sets that you're (hypothetically) planning on holding for a year, there's nothing anyone who wants to buy the sets earlier than that can do. This redistribution may have been instigated by a private (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) You seem to imply there's a difference between being 'wrong' and being 'unsavoury', but I can't see any difference in principle - perhaps a small difference of degree in that 'unsavoury' implies a smaller amount of wrongness. Also, aren't you (...) (25 years ago, 18-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Hmm. What about selling stock off in advance of the release of bad news? This happened quite recently with Correl Corp... Shortly before they announced lower than expected profits (dropping the stock price), the president sold off 1/3 of his (...) (25 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) If you're asking me for a legal definition, I'm not sure. but my common sense opinion is that common sense is indeed required. (...) Here I think i am on a bit firmer ground when I say that I think, legally, saying something is one way when (...) (25 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) Well, I sort of meant that if everyone affected by the deal agrees to it, then nothing else matters. I assume you agree that you can waive your rights if you so choose. (...) I know that Libertarians are into the Force 'n' Fraud phrase, and I (...) (25 years ago, 15-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...
 
(...) identified as "Technic Pin 1/2". :p Steve (25 years ago, 13-Oct-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)


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