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(...) Why? I would have thought all you Cons (of one ilk or another) stuck together anyway. ;-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) HA, don't let the Libs hear you say that;-) (...) But herein lies the rub. Does the punishment fit the crime? A 3 time drug abuser can get about the same length sentence (depending upon the ages of the criminals-- hey, life is only so long). (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I see no reason for cable TV or conjugal visits. Life in prison sounds about right though. (I beleive you asked this already) Note, again, my assertion that prisons need to be structured so that they do not cost the state money, but rather, (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A civil war. JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) By merit of being a Democracy alone Israel deserves our support. While I agree that in an ideal world we wouldn't have to support Israel monetarily as we currently do, to actually withdraw support would be a very bad signal to send to Islamic (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) While we're at it, how literally do you want "democracy" defined? Would you accept that the US, for instance, is actually a republic, not a democracy? BTW I don't accept "The Straight Ddope" as a source, since it has been used against ME in (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps, if he were a Religion major in kollege (as I was). And BTW, I meant Wilt Chamberlain, not Dr J (I guess I got them confused because of Dr J's recent legal problems with his estranged wife...) JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Of course, but even if we tortured and killed a known torturer and killer, it still wouldn't be morally equivalent to the torturing and killing of an innocent. And BTW, what IS justice for a known kidnapper and murderer of innocent children? (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How literally do you insist on "war" to be defined? Would you accept that the Vietnam conflict, for instance, was actually a war? Chris (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not really. He certainly knows the bible better than I do, and perhaps even better than you do, John... (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And if we stoop to the level of the atrocity committer in our meting out of justice, we are also so doomed. (...) Assuming he did it. I grant it looks pretty certain but never can you be 100% CERTAIN. Do you know for *sure* what exactly (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What I was trying to do was emphathize with the parents of this little girl. I was imagining that it happened to my little girl. So yeah, my reaction was a little personal and over the top. I don't think Dave or I would be justified to torture (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) He is? He is a popular actor, but I wouldn't call it reverance. Hmmmm. (...) Mostly, I'm just teasing about the Queen. :-) (...) There is more flag-waving in this country than in Britain (see the John Neal prototype), or such is my impression. (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, the ongoing Kashmir conflict (and at some points in history all out war) between India and Pakistan... -Orion (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are in denial. Why are your jails full of your black countrymen? You’ll never change it if you don’t confront it. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was referring jokingly to the reverence Tom is shown. (...) The UK is a parliamentary democracy with a constitutional monarch. She’d be set aside if she tried to use what little powers she still holds. Interestingly, she could have stopped (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bush's support for Israel is good for nobody. It is'nt even good for Israel. (...) None of that explains Bush’s support for brutal regimes (e.g. Uzbekistan & Israel) or nuclear proliferators (Pakistan). Scott A (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hi-ho. (...) Yes, you might think that if Jesus, as God-on-earth (or at least someone-more-qualifi...s-behalf), wanted it to be clear to people in his own time (and for all time) that the barbaric morality which the Old Testament portrays as (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I understand that, but aren't you supposed to try? I mean, you're openly embracing your desire to torture another man. I thought (and obviously I don't hold the same set of spiritual convictions that you do, but I thought I understood them a (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I lean towards the Seventh Day Adventist teachings in that death is a sleep during which the "dead know nothing" (Eccl 9:5), which is to say that nothing of a person survives death, that the dead simply cease to exist until they are (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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