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Re: Some people call Buicks "boats"...
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Sun, 8 Feb 2004 14:41:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:

   Does the propaganda live up to reality in the USA?

Scott A

It could be worse - we could have idiot royalty. Now that would really be lame.

Yeah; we have our Queen, you have Tom Cruise (etc). ;)

Hmmmm, I’m not sure where you are going with that analogy.

I was referring jokingly to the reverence Tom is shown.

   Tom Cruise remains Tom Cruise whatever I do, the Queen is your Queen because you subject yourself to her.

The UK is a parliamentary democracy with a constitutional monarch. She’d be set aside if she tried to use what little powers she still holds. Interestingly, she could have stopped Tony invading Iraq as it was against the will of the nation….

  


  
  
To be less silly, what country lives up to its propaganda?

You are stealing my point!


Aha! You admit that the UK does not live up to its propaganda! You should be ashamed and concede all points of debate immediately. :-)

The difference is, we are not indoctrinated at school with our version of your “land of the free” stuff; we don’t wave our flags quite as much as you do. I know what the UK is to me. I ignore the propaganda.

  
  
   Is the U.S. the land of the free and the home of the brave, a land of opportunity? Yes, for the most part.

Even if one is black?

Yes.

I expected better from you. Read this: “Our research shows that blacks comprise 62.7 percent and whites 36.7 percent of all drug offenders admitted to state prison, even though federal surveys and other data detailed in this report show clearly that this racial disparity bears scant relation to racial differences in drug offending. There are, for example, five times more white drug users than black. Relative to population, black men are admitted to state prison on drug charges at a rate that is 13.4 times greater than that of white men. In large part because of the extraordinary racial disparities in incarceration for drug offenses, blacks are incarcerated for all offenses at 8.2 times the rate of whites. One in every 20 black men over the age of 18 in the United States is in state or federal prison, compared to one in 180 white men. ”


  
  
   Hardly perfect (look how Bush got elected). Has it’s faults. But it makes my short list of countries I’d be willing to live in. Consider that my Irish ancestors voted with their feet on what they thought of Great Britain. :-)


They must have been the Schlickbernd’s of Dublin? ;)

Dougherty, Joyce, and Leonard, actually. More towards Cork. Except the idiot Leonard side - who bailed from Ireland for Scotland first, and found that even worse. :-)

He must have been an idiot if he preferred Ireland; our whisky is far better.

Scott A


  


  
Did they take part in the oppression of native Americans when they arrived?

Scott A

Arrived too late for that - I’m sure they would have joined in, like all the rest of the Europeans did if they had the chance, though. :-0


-->Bruce<--



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(...) He is? He is a popular actor, but I wouldn't call it reverance. Hmmmm. (...) Mostly, I'm just teasing about the Queen. :-) (...) There is more flag-waving in this country than in Britain (see the John Neal prototype), or such is my impression. (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Hmmmm, I'm not sure where you are going with that analogy. Tom Cruise remains Tom Cruise whatever I do, the Queen is your Queen because you subject yourself to her. (...) Aha! You admit that the UK does not live up to its propaganda! You (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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