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Hold On to Your Humanity: An Open Letter to GIs in Iraq (URL) I am a retired veteran of the army, and my own son is among you, a paratrooper like I was. The changes that are happening to every one of you--some more extreme than others--are changes I (...) (21 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Information War (was Re: Bush is almost as much of an idiot as is John Neal)
 
(...) Yes, there is something very wrong here... How the Orwellian White House Continues to Keep the Saddam-9/11 Connection Alive, Even After Bush Debunked the Lie. They Are the Masters of "1984" Double Speak. (URL) In short, Feith is saying no (...) (21 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush's broken propaganda machine?
 
(...) Quoting the expression that's all the rage here-- "The man is obviously an idiot." If there were some element of truth here, doncha think Dubya and co. would be shouting it from the rooftops? "Looky here--here's the proof that OBL and SH were (...) (21 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Dubya's propaganda machine at work again
 
(...) Probably, but it's good for a punchline. Much has already (and not unreasonably) been made of the rhetorical similarity between Dubya's "with-us-or-against-us" drum-beating and the propaganda of 1930's German fascism. If Dubya ever mentions a (...) (21 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Bush's broken propaganda machine?
 
Seems to me all of the evidence is here showing irrefutable proof that OBL and SH had an intimate relationship. So why wasn't this brought up sooner? Something is very wrong here. (URL) JOHN (21 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Dubya's propaganda machine at work again
 
(...) Coincidence. No? (...) The man is obviously an idiot. JOHN (21 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Dubya's propaganda machine at work again
 
(URL) choice of words. And, in other (URL). This, from the city that lived through The Blitz! Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Vive Le Canada!!!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: <snip> (...) This is the one bit about Canada, at least where I live, that I'm starting to have issues with. When I was oh so much younger than I am today, I'd say to all those whiny people, (...) (21 years ago, 14-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vive Le Canada!!!
 
(...) I'll just have to make do with the top-down weather and beach babes. Sigh. Warm isn't cool anymore, but cold is? What is the world coming to? -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 14-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Vive Le Canada!!!
 
(URL) a nice little article, by an American, about Canada. Made me smile :) " Canadians are, as a nation, less religious than we are, according to polls. As a result, Canada's government isn't influenced by large, well-organized religious groups and (...) (21 years ago, 14-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Now, you have to read this ! How stupid can one get?
 
(...) Not even at CSX either... -HRH (21 years ago, 14-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  When the going gets tough...
 
When the going gets tough... R U N ! Bush to speed up Iraqi handover (URL) laugh, if it was not such a tragedy! Scott A (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Two newsbits on the economy...
 
The Professor Takes the Gloves Off (URL) Krugman: Also, you might say that Bush has some un-earned credits from the responsibility of his predecessors. In the past, U.S. presidents have always in the end done enough of the right thing so that the (...) (21 years ago, 14-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Gore Vidal assesses the damage...
 
Uncensored Gore (URL) Franklin understood the American people better than the other three. Washington and Jefferson were nobles ? slaveholders and plantation owners. Alexander Hamilton married into a rich and powerful family and joined the upper (...) (21 years ago, 13-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A THREAT TO PEACE?
 
(...) Actually some estimates put the figure around 20 million, counting civilians: (URL) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Now, you have to read this ! How stupid can one get?
 
(...) Not even at Halliburton? Scott A (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A THREAT TO PEACE?
 
(...) Just as those in the USA have forgotten France's role in America gaining independence? The last time I looked the liberation of Europe was a combined effort by ~12 nations. The last time I looked the USA had to be dragged into Europe. D-day (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A THREAT TO PEACE?
 
(...) You left out "stupid". Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A THREAT TO PEACE?
 
(...) Indeed, 6+ million war dead. Others: Germany 6.5 million Poland 5 million Japan 2.4 million Yugoslavia 1.7 million France 600,000 Italy 500,000 Romania 500,000 Greece 450,000 Hungary 430,000 UK 350,000 Czechoslovakia 340,000 Austria 374,000 (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Now, you have to read this ! How stupid can one get?
 
(...) Well, John, I wanted to let you know you were wrong. I am sorry if you are not happy with the way things are, but what I see from here is a country destroyed by Americans, a people angry at yours, american soldiers dying because they have no (...) (21 years ago, 12-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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