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(...) hehe.. (...) Me as well! I've done it a few times myself. (21 years ago, 27-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) o-t.snip! The isue is that I still enclose my 'snips' in < >, which, in FTX, leads to a hyper-link... Old habits die hard for me. :) Dave K (21 years ago, 26-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I swear, I'm going to put a page at off-topic/debate/snip... (1) (...) That's what's so great about theology, you can use the "evidence" for anything! 1 - changed this post to plain text but Dave's is in FTX, go look at it and try following (...) (21 years ago, 26-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Or that God does exist and has a keen sense of humour... That's how I'm taking it. ;) Dave K (21 years ago, 26-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Warhol 'copy' row engulfs art world (URL) Andy Warhol often left assistants to "mass produce" many of his most famous pictures, among them images of the Campbell soup tin. edt: snip The irony in the row is that Warhol himself questioned the idea of (...) (21 years ago, 26-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure this particular picture is on topic for off-topic.debate (1) but it's certainly a very interesting picture. 1 - unless we somehow managed to divert into "purple frogs are proof that god doesn't exist" or something... (21 years ago, 26-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was out of the country when this latest twist happened but I'm shocked and dismayed. It seems a clear breach of separation of powers to me. Also, laws are not supposed to be made to apply to a single person. (...) I understand that of the 1M (...) (21 years ago, 26-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: "By Their Fruits You Will Know Them"
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(...) Many thanks! I guess I didn't closely proof that reposted section, now did I? Looks like kaka...and I don't mean a New Zealand parrot either! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 25-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Richard, you can get non-proportional "code-like" text in FTX usint the | character: | Japan 11 times | Germany 12 times | France 15 times | Italy 20 times | Canada 20 times | S. Africa 21 times | Britian 22 times | Hong Kong 41 times | Mexico (...) (21 years ago, 25-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Transcript: Bill Moyers interviews Joe Hough (URL) MOYERS: You recently did a very radical thing. You called on the children of Abraham ? Muslims, Christians and Jews ? to engage in an act of refusal. HOUGH: Well, my perception, Bill, is that there (...) (21 years ago, 25-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) Yes, well, I was quoting the critics (the press and such). You quoted Judas, but perhaps his biggest critic of all. No matter how powerful Mel's work is, I doubt it will top J.C. Superstar (for me, at least) [JOHN] (21 years ago, 25-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) If we are gonna quote J.C. Superstar, let's at least get the quote salient to Hoppy's message. :-) You'd have managed better If you'd had it planned Now why'd you choose such a backward time And such a strange land? If you'd come today You (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) Well, if you're like most male human beings -- you will! One at a time. It's called "serial monogamy." And if you don't get married or have children I think I'd have to say that you would be increasing your chances of increasing the numbers (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) It's not about "art" for him, it's about trying to recreate the event as closely as humanly possible for whatever reason. What a bummer that Jesus wasn't crucified in the 20th century where the event could have been captured on video for (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) Fellowship. God wants to be in relationship with us. JOHN (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I meant it in the sense that it isn't based on an absolute, so in theory it could be based on anything at any given time. (...) Our evolving understanding of God came as He revealed Himself to us, culminating in the life and teaching of Jesus (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, then why, according to the bible, did God create man and, for that matter, the universe? Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As a matter of historical record, no. It is a story, as are the creation stories in Genesis. But I do believe that a Supreme Being created the universe somehow. I believe that the Bible isn't interested in explaining the hows of anything, but (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) Out of curiosity, do you believe the story of Noah's Ark? Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) Pardon? "Wholly arbitrary" would be a determination of "good" and "evil" based on nothing more than whim or random chance. As artifacts of our evolution, "good" and "evil" are cultural characterizations of certain behaviors and situations, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) Yes, incest is prohibited in Leviticus. So are a lot of things BTW, like eating lobster;-) I think the issue predates the Bible. And I did a little research-- it appears that incest is taboo in virtually every culture (except in some (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) I like the bit in the Bible where the men have harems--why can't I have my many women! K, I don't have a woman right now, yet enough to constitute a harem... so this point's rather irrelevant. <snip> (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) There's plenty of examples of inbreeding in the Bible. Does the Bible also specifically forbid incest? It's not something of great importance to me either way so I can see my forgetting these details... (...) It is my understanding that (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) Okay, but you'd agree that it is taboo in our culture? If so, to what would you attest that value? I'll have to do a little research, but I think the taboo extends beyond any Judeo-Christian influence. (...) I don't follow you. Are you saying (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) I'm no expert by any stretch but I think this is false on both counts. It's my understanding that if enough inbreeding occurs you actually get the same result as carefully avoiding inbreeding. I think there was evidence of this from (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) In no particular order and not limited by national boundries, I give you... Thee List: 01. Prospero's Books (Greenaway) -- There's simply nothing else like it 02. Hamlet (Branagh) -- Closest film adaptation yet! Sorry, Mel -- not even close... (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) (the sound of clothes ripping) Whaaa? You must be a closet metalhead who felt the jab of satire a little too close to home? :-) More proof that you and I don't see eye to eye on much-- as if that were needed:-) JOHN (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm shocked! I thought Liberals loved that film! JOHN (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Mysterious Ways (was Re: Ecce Homo )
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(...) I wonder if Jesus had cried out "RAT FART!" just previously.... Another art film on my list I'd forgotten! :-) JOHN (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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(...) Brother/sister unions are taboo in most cultures AFAIK. That could point to a genetic component that discourages such unions thereby avoiding inbreeding. Or, all of the brothers and sisters who tried to procreate produced (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Mysterious Ways (was Re: Ecce Homo )
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(...) Oh my! I think God doesn't want to see this film! Dave K (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I was going thru the list and thinking, "boy he likes Kevin", then the end caught me. Should have easily seen coming but I was still taken by surprise :) (...) True. Dave K (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Mysterious Ways (was Re: Ecce Homo )
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(...) (URL) Hmm...> (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I confess that I've never gotten into Spinal Tap. I don't know why, but it just doesn't grab me. (...) Terry Gilliam is American by birth, so THG might technically qualify. Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) Here's my top ten: 10. Thirteen Days 9. Robin Hood Prince of Thieves 8. JFK 7. Dragonfly 6. For Love of the Game 5. Tin Cup 4. Waterworld 3. 3000 Miles to Vegas 2. The Bodyguard 1. The Lion King Oh, wait--that's my list of worst films. (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) Of course! Bueller would have to be included! BTW, you only have 1??? (...) If you liked that one, by all means see Waiting for Guffman, and the recently released A Mighty Wind. Same cast (it's almost weird that way), same hilarity. It is a (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) Oh My Goodness! I have the Grail on DVD. Seriously, it's so choice. If you have the means, I seriously recommend it. Spinal Tap--not my forte, but 'Best in Show'--lovely. Maybe it was all the Canadians in it :) Dave K (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) That's what I was going for. While we could debate the artistic merits of the explosion scene of the 2nd floor of the building in 'Die Hard'(1), I was wondering what people would (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) No brainer-- This is Spinal Tap If your question is addressed to Americans, then I'd add The Holy Grail; if you meant American films, then I guess it wouldn't qualify;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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(...) Could you restate that please? Are you asking for a list of films that might possibly rise to the level of being called "art"? Does the list have to be composed of strictly american films for some reason? ??? FWIW, I don't actually subscribe (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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