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(...) I wouldn't necessarily say 'police', but if "Joe's Gun Shop and Deli" places orders into 'Smith and Wesson Gun Manufacturing Co., shouldn't S&W know to whom they're shipping guns? Make sure that the store doesn't have any outstanding ATF cites (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'd say the ATF has to police this stuff and not that manufacturer, the reverse seems crazy backwards. If you are going to place the burden of regulation on the manufacturer, then what do we need the ATF for? I would say that citing the gun (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Now that's a good point. That said, in the example it wasn't the linen company that contributed to the violation of the health codes of the restaurants--no one eats the table cloths. However, it is the guns from the manufacturer that directly (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I missed this post in all the commotion, so I didn't reply earlier. My apologies to John for the delay. (...) What's unscientific about it, exactly? Thermodymanics allows for "something from nothing" as long as the net effect is zero. Quantum vacuum (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) beyond the scope of what is wanted here. The gun shop is apparently not keeping very good records and the ATF is tasked with regulating the shop's negligence, neither is doing their respective jobs! I'm not clear on how or why Bushmaster (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) not the lawsuit that's being stamped out, it's not the bill that grants gun companies 'special priviledges' over other companies, that I want tp point out (though all worthy of debate)... " Police traced the gun used in the killings to Bull's (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Galloway has been expelled from the Labour Party in the wake of his outspoken comments on the Iraq war. " The following is a list of charges: " he incited Arabs to fight British troops he incited British troops to defy orders he incited (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Protesters to Bush: How dare you? (URL) In Sydney yesterday, the crowd, estimated by protest organisers to be 5000 people and by police at between 3000 and 4000, filled Town Hall square during peak hour. Senator Bob Brown of the Greens was greeted (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I say it's about time that filmmakers start taking chances and 'make art', instead of all this crass commercial crap. I mean, Matrix comes out and then a slew of copycats... and appealing to, well me, but that's a topic elsewhere--but bottom (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But it came from Rummy! That's the bit that I'm having a problem with--it's like many of us have known all along that the 'wheels have fallen off the wagon', but Rummy was the loudest speaker for the plan. Now that many more people are (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I decided to pull a "Richard" and delete the entire post and put in its place a trite answer. Seems to work well for you, so I thought it'd work equally as well for me. Dave K (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Does anyone else want to see this film as much as I do? I have seen a trailer for this film which is supposed to depict the last hours of Jesus as he faced his crucifixion. The plan has been for the film to be entirely in Aramaic and Latin and (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Rumsfeld memo consistent with public views (URL) "Rumsfeld has not characterized it that way in public, but Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has used similar words." This story is at the top of the page on CNN (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree if there were laws or even constitutional rights that caused the deaths of innocent life I would be all for removing them too. Of course removing the right of law abiding citizens to have weapons does not reduce the crime rate, even (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What can you mean?! You're starting to be quite the jerk about this subject. I write a long explanation and you hit me with some vague argument without explanation. I won't waste my time on you again like this... It was my understanding that (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What does my opposition to a standing army have to do with the need, or right, to a militia? The militia is de facto -- it is the people themselves. There is no wiggling. I am not telling you that we are currently doing things in strict (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) Selective interpretation at it's finest! Now look who's disregarding the founders, framers, fathers. Nicely done! Dave K (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This has nothing to do with morality. It has everything to do with your selective interpretation. Either the 2nd is archaic, for you do not supply militia members as needed from 'the people' anymore, the people who join the militia today are (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Looks like my dad was right again -- he mentioned this to me several months ago based on some reading he had been doing...I, of course, told him he was nuts. Frankly, the story seemed too much of a witch hunt, too extreme. And anyway, I didn't have (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Rumsfeld's war-on-terror memo (URL) "It is pretty clear that the coalition can win in Afghanistan and Iraq in one way or another, but it will be a long, hard slog." Related Story: Defense memo: A grim outlook (URL) Gee, what happened to the easy win (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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