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  Re: Our troops: an economic target
 
(...) Completely concur. Dave K (21 years ago, 1-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Our troops: an economic target
 
Editorial: Nothing but lip service (URL) In recent months, President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress have missed no opportunity to heap richly deserved praise on the military. But talk is cheap - and getting cheaper by the day, judging (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) Where are these good people that you speak of? Lynching gays in the midwest? Bashing heads belonging to dissenters in with baseball bats? Sitting in the White House committing atrocity after atrocity in the name of democracy and capitalism? (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbit: "Ten Appalling Lies We Were Told About Iraq"
 
(...) And one more article from DU this week: (URL) " And let's not even get into the Weapons of Mass Deception, but let me add that we gave UN inspectors about 3 months to find them, so I hope that by mid-July that The State finds them, cause (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) That debating is a waste of time I think goes without saying. But what research are talking about? There's no truth out there -- just competing approximations and opinions. I accept that the news as reported can be a kind of "truth," once (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Newsbit: "Ten Appalling Lies We Were Told About Iraq"
 
Ten Appalling Lies We Were Told About Iraq (URL) edit: you might as well skip the first two paragraphs after the initial quote -- I would have taken them out if it were my article. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) You expected me to let you off the hook with this one? (...) Well, Larry, Not so much. I could go off and say that my supposed thinly veiled 'Canadianism' is in direct response to the demonstrable "Americanism", but I won't. You could insert a (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) I figured you'd go off on the tangent about who's number one again... and I was right. Address my point and spare us all the chest thumping about how great Canada is (said thumping thinly disguised as a fine puree of denial about what you're (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) Somehow I doubt that your version of 'what would have happened' in lieu of the 'revolutionary war' is quite the same idea as my version would be. That said, who knows what would have happened if you didn't have your little tea party, and the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) Actually, we were running things the way we wanted to and the Brits reacted to that. Too radical for them. (...) Depends on whether we gun-mad 'Mericans start shipping guns to the Quebec separatists. ;-) (...) Hey, I'd love to live in Canada (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(...) We have the spectacle of Ashcroft and his ilk busily disassembling our freedoms, with a rigged election system in place to ensure that it is very unlikely that any non Demopublican will get elected in time to stop it, and you want us to give (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Larry and other Libertarians
 
(...) So in other words you agree that the posited free rider problem is just a red herring, then? I don't need to provide this cite for you to debunk it, then, but I will toss it in anyway: (URL) The whole rest of the article is riddled with (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Larry and other Libertarians
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) But how do you get around the idea that corporations *do* follow the bottom line. I mean, it's inherently what they do. And if the environment gets screwed in the process, that's their (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Larry and other Libertarians
 
(...) Nice in the sense that it's full of straw dogs like this one: "The only way for the Randvillians to deal with the free riders is to coerce labor on the levees, or assess taxes in lieu of labor. " \ Why don't you, as a thought experiment, see (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  For Larry and other Libertarians
 
Though, to be said, Larry has mentioned (iirc) that he's a small 'l' libertarian... (URL) conservatives contend that virtually all economic and social institutions are better managed when privatized and unregulated. According to this libertarian (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  More throwbacks to Hitler...
 
(URL) that America - Ashcroft's America - is where we now live. We have plunged headlong into the past. America cringes under the shadow of a militant Homeland Security Act - a ghostly doppleganger of Adolph Hitler's 1933 "Enabling Act," which, to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Music Downloads and RIAA
 
"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HH43D4.C71@lugnet.com... (...) infringing (...) because I (...) could be (...) right? (...) I just put two things together: Kazaa was sued by the RIAA and found to be not liable for the (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Protecting the Environment
 
(...) The market should decide. And the market can and *will* reach the right decision. Just make sure that ALL costs are visible and are charged to the parties that should be incurring the costs. Which is the point of the article and of the book. (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Protecting the Environment
 
(...) I like the bit where gov't agencies change their mind when it's them that's losing the money. As per usual, money talks. I'm all for capitalistic endeavours, but there has to be a line, and who's going to decide where that line is? THe line (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Protecting the Environment
 
As of posting the link refers to the June 17th 2003 (released after 18th) article. (URL) Petrucelli (21 years ago, 27-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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