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  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) If you're being facetious, that's fine, but the issue is that you can't reasonably assume that X number of crimes are prevented by any particular factor, without additional evidence or criteria. (...) That may be so, but so what? The fact (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) I see. Well... Taking on Larry's sentence some while ago, if all rights are property rights, can't you reduce common law to law against theft, and then extend it to all conflicts of interests where one party gets harmed? (I'm not saying it is (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
Just adding in this reference for new(er)comers to debate (yup, it's me referencing me, again): Re: Legal Education? (was: real conspiracies?) (URL) -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) The term is perhaps a little "overloaded" with history, but in a criminal law context it basically means laws against theft, rape, and murder (and all of the usual lesser versions of those kinds of crimes). (...) True, but that has nothing to (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The term racist gets thrown aroun a little easily around here..
 
(...) We have laws. "Because he had overstayed his six-month visa, U.S. immigration officials said." (You forgot to include this quotation) Also I would add that "Muslim" is not a race; Arab is. Are you talking about religious persecution? [JOHN] (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Revisionists...
 
(...) There's an infinity of difference between lying about Oval Office Oral and the creation of a war and lying about the basis of that war. Frankly, I think it's sickening that you can't see a difference. On the one hand, a manipulative woman got (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) No it doesn't. Take Austraila for example. Here are some "pro-gun wacko" sites with statistics (URL) enough I can not find any "anit-gun wacko" sites with contradictiong claims. (...) Do you think we can succesfully invade every country with a (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) Could you clarify what "common law" is? Especially if it is a deliberately vague concept or not. (...) Well, it could be the case that the government is actually regulating with the intent of saving your money. They can argue that you'll (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Newsbits (was Re: Revisionists...)
 
Nuclear Evidence on Iraq (URL) edit: includes great bits like "What Intelligence Officials Knew about the Forged Iraq Nuclear Evidence," and "The Bush Administration’s Use of the Forged Iraq Nuclear Evidence" The Dog Ate My WMDs (URL) The questions (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) OK, how about this; Almost all crimes that are prevented by armed people, rather than something else, are not police but rather armed citizens. Is that better? Seriously though we need to keep this whole "high crime rate in the US" thing is (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The term racist gets thrown aroun a little easily around here..
 
At least according to some. When pointed out that the number one case of death for black males b/w 18 and 34 is homicide, it's a racist remark. Oh but wait... What have we here? (URL) and more than 13,000 other young, mostly Muslim immigrants who (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Revisionists...
 
(...) Why is it that every president has to have an inquiry launched by his opposition party, and his party objects vehemently? Clinton does something Republicans don’t like, they launch an investigation and Democrats scream that it is too (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Revisionists...
 
(URL) senior US senator says he has evidence that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) deliberately withheld crucial information from the UN arms inspectors deployed to Iraq. The claim comes as Congress prepares to open inquiries into whether the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) I guess when it gets to the details, there's the rub: "socially acceptable." There's a lot of stuff that gets wrap up with that that itself has nothing to do with whether one obeys the laws or not. In the U.S., it used to be thought that one (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) I don't have a chip in my brain telling me I must stop. Ergo, I run my life. Then again, and very conveniently, I don't have a problem with the concepts of Law nor Law making: my perception is that the society I'm part of writes a code of (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Fast becoming my 'site du jour'....
 
Top 10 Conservative idiots... (URL) number 1 this week-- "Last week Donald Rumsfeld said that while the intelligence community agrees that Iran does not have nuclear weapons, "the assessment is that they do have a very active programme and are (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) Thanks--that's exactly my point! Dave! (21 years ago, 16-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Powell wrote: <snip> (...) Hey, don't mention capitas or statistics, or comparisons b/w countries, (unless these stats conform to the predetermined answers of the party in charge) unless you want to be branded a (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) I don't think you can prove a negative. I could be wrong here, but my guess is that many crimes are prevented by locking doors too. That, and having a dog. And a green martian to defend your house when you are away :) (yes, I am being a bit (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  More War = More Terrorism, Less Security
 
Former Aide Takes Aim at War on Terror (URL) Five days before the war began in Iraq, as President Bush prepared to raise the terrorism threat level to orange, a top White House counterterrorism adviser unlocked the steel door to his office, an (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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