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Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:27:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:

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Well actually most of the crimes that actually are prevented in the US are
done so by armed citizens. So imposing gun control on law abiding citizens,
would be like hacking off ones left arm to save ones right little finger.
(Criminals are going to have guns regardless.) It is already easier for
people to purchase guns on the Black Market than it is to purchase them
legally.


I would hazard a guess that most of the homicides are also due to 'armed'
people.  Imposing gun control on law abiding citizens will prevent and slow
down the number of guns getting into the hands of criminals.

No it doesn't. Take Austraila for example.
Here are some "pro-gun wacko" sites with statistics
http://www.888webtoday.com/beezley565.html
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/guns/down_under.htm
http://www.fehq.org/public/guncontrol.htm
http://www.nrawinningteam.com/auresult.html
http://www.old-hippie.com/doc_files/polit/austrailian_gun_control.htm
Strangely enough I can not find any "anit-gun wacko" sites with contradictiong
claims.

Less guns in
total can only mean less guns for criminals.  Less guns to steal from law
abiding citizens and stores means less guns to buy on the black market,
therefore making it more difficult to purchase an illegal gun.

Criminals cannot have guns *if* there are no guns to have.

Do you think we can succesfully invade every country with a gun manufacturing
plant and shut them all down?  I think it is easier just to allow law abiding
citizens to be on equal terms as the criminals.

-Mike Petrucelli



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  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
(...) Here's one web reference that might be familiar to you: (URL) in that post I link to a site that specifically addresses the Australia problem. In particular, your citations (which in essence simply parrot the same statistics and might as well (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote: <snip> (...) I would hazard a guess that most of the homicides are also due to 'armed' people. Imposing gun control on law abiding citizens will prevent and slow down the number of guns getting into (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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