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  So we're back to school yard politics...
 
(URL) which this editorial goes on about... " The failure of the Bush team to produce any weapons of mass destruction (W.M.D.'s) in Iraq is becoming a big, big story. But is it the real story we should be concerned with? No. It was the wrong issue (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(...) I sure am, just not this one, I don't think she would ever win, she inspires a great deal of hatred from many on the right. I do find it interesting that she is writing about the affairs, I guarantee it will sell more books, we humans are such (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, and love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - Theodore Roosevelt. The consolidation of power that (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
 
(URL) think I'll buy the book... But President Hillary in 2008? Are you guys down there ready for a woman president? Dave K (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Your Rights, Your Money...
 
(...) That's very nearly a 100% apocryphal statistic. Here's one addressing of the issue: (URL) but there countless others on the web and in print media that draw pretty much the same conclusion. I'm not worried about my Canadian friends who (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Digression on Johnson (was Re: Should we be concerned?)
 
[The Real Hal Moore]¬ Interview of Lt. General Harold G. Moore by William F. Jasper (URL) recount the bitter anger and frustration that you and others in the military felt concerning the decisions in Washington to allow the Communist forces to have (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
<snip> (...) Very good quote. Essentially saying let someone else think and act for me. There have got to be better ways to achieve anti-terrorism goals than promoting fear and division. I wonder how events would have played out post 9/11 had a less (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) Yes, but Clinton remembered one thing, "It's the economy, stupid." People knew that Nixon was a mean man, not an honest man. But they felt he could run the country. Clinton could run the country: not one of your complaints about him precludes (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) Article 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights. Would they license a horse? Don't they license motorcycles and bikes? Aren't the roads called "rights of way." We all have the right to travel -- this was recognized as early as Magna Carta in the common (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) Shrub has been AWOL and everything about his "military" career was protected and sanctified by Daddy Shrub himself -- give it a rest. It's all well covered up and with the appropriate gloss of "spin", just like his drug and alcohol record. So, (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) Totally on the same page with John--driving's a priviledge, not a right, and getting a drivers license, as it stands today in many areas, is getting your picture taken such that when and if (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) Please cite in the Constitution this "right". (...) Bus, train, taxi, airplane, unicycle, bicycle, tricycle, Segway; take your pick. (...) How about theft? (...) Yet another conspiracy? (...) Are you kidding me??? You are asking the state to (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
Man if I don’t log on for just one day some of these posts just get buried by others. (...) I just had to address this statement. It actually reminded me of the way I felt about Clinton during his presidency. In 1992 when he was first elected I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Should we be concerned?
 
(...) Allow me to correct myself: a driver's license is specifically enumerated as not a right in California. Other states may be different, though I don't specically know of any that vary from that. The right to travel is in no way prohibited. You (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  It's a Holiday in Cambodia!
 
Weapons Of Mass Disappearance The war in Iraq was based largely on intelligence about banned arms that still haven't been found. Was America's spy craft wrong - or manipulated? (URL) Where are Iraq’s WMDs? The message was plain: Saddam’s weapons of (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: In the name of security and defense
 
(...) Yeah, because his ineffective attempt to deal with Saddam involved the mere launching of 100s of cruise missiles at Iraq. But how can you even make that assertion? What if he had taken bold action after the first attack on the WTC? His limp (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: In the name of security and defense
 
(...) "The truth"??? Are you alleging that the Left has a corner on the truth? Your arguments are all about half truths through character assassination, conspiratorial innuendo, and dishonesty. That you quote the Bible merely adds to the irony which (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: In the name of security and defense
 
(...) There is no point of comparison between oral sex between consenting adults and mass murder/war crime on the scale that occurred in Iraq. A Slick Willy did not cost us even one American life. I grieve for the unjustified soldiers lost in Iraq (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: In the name of security and defense
 
(...) It gets to the point when I almost hesitate to click on the BBC link... in fear of what other atrocity may surface regarding the 'most powerful man in the world' directing the 'most powerful nation in the world'. But there are those who would (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Your Rights, Your Money...
 
(...) Well, is true that a welfare society does seem to have this very issue--simgle moms having more kids to get more money, and that should be dealt with... Here's a thought-- Better education. But I'm just throwing off the top of my head here... (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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