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  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Worse than that: it's too prone to mistakes. It'd be good if instant replay systems were introduced for the 4th referee, so he could assist the main referee on the more dubious cases. Then again, the mistakes are also part of the game... :-/ (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) Neither prove nor cede, merely leave it as an acknowledged point of disagreement. (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) Governor Moonbeam! Jerry is probably the very definition of flakey, but I always liked him. Despite coming from a political family (California Governor Pat Brown was his father, for those who don't know) he doesn't seem like the usual (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) We had Republicans George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson before Gray Davis so I wouldn't call it that much of a Democrat state (Let's toss in Nixon and Reagan, though I suppose one can counter that both of our senators are currently fairly liberal (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) Pardon? If we're held to the same standard, then why do you feel free to dispense little nuggets as if they're revealed truth, but you require me to prove my arguments? (...) Let's hear them. Perhaps, instead of saying "you" in that context, I (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Real baseball players bat. Mark Mulder turns swinging a bat into an adventure. In other words, the DH is as legit as AL pitching and/or relief pitching. BTW Edgar Martinez for the Hall of Fame (Once he retires)! (...) Agreed. (...) Legit call (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Is the latter the cost paid by the US for the first Gulf war only, or the total cost? The first Gulf war, being sactioned by the UN, was not paid exclusively by the US. Far from it, the bill was shared between many countries. The present war (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ne or Ni [monty python]
 
(...) I've always thought it was "Nee"! Fredrik (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) Addendum (for clarification)-- "No matter which party." And on that I completely agree. Dave K (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) This should be a non-partisan issue. If s/he wastes taxpayer money, throw the bum out -- doesn't matter which side s/he claims to be on. My favorite CA politician is Jerry Brown -- he's a little spooky, but he rides BART and I think he (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) (assuming your a demo branch demopublican speaking, else it's "the President doesn't control the economy, unless 1) it's strong and he's a Democrat or 2) it's weak and he's a Republican." Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Bush and Davis (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) No, we're to the same standard I would say. (...) There's no better defense than the market of ideas in this sphere but I do not have to prove a point to your satisfaction or else "cede" it. There are other possible outcomes. (...) Well... (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) Much better to have far-Right conservative clowns at the Federal helm. Bush, as you are for some reason overlooking, has destroyed a far larger budget surplus in far less time than Davis, and Bush has no plans, concrete or abstract, to correct (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  California the great Democrat experiment
 
Frightening (URL) like to call my beautiful home state of California the great Democrat experiment. Every top government office in the state is held by a Democrat, and the legislature is overwhelmingly Democrat. Gray Davis took office in 1998 to a (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) You're kidding, right? You're saying, in effect, that you are free to assert your opinions as facts, but I'm held to a higher rhetorical standard? (...) Since you're the one on the outside making the claim contrary to the existing system, it (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Military Aid or Invasion?
 
"Pilgrims threaten jihad against American forces" (URL) go, you read, you find out that Iraqis may have a different opinion about good government than does GWB. Your sons and daughters will fight for GWB's side of it regardless. How many people must (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) That's not a settled point, so I'd wish you wouldn't assert it as if it were. (...) Nor is that settled. But larger-ly, what's the bearing? Do you disagree that a just government (whether you think a non libertarian government is just or not) (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) I disagree. There should be no grey area here: you either have the right of unfettered assembly or you do not. The government has no right to infiltrate a group on the mere suspicion that they will act violently. Please see: (URL) not quite (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) I am not clear on the particulars, but I think broadcasters do have to give air time to those with opposing views. I think it works that way at the local level, or at least it used to. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the FCC has backed (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) Actually, it must be remembered that the government, then using force in accordance with written law, is exercising contract enforcement, which is 100% approved by Libertarian philosophy. Maybe I don't like it, maybe you don't like it, but (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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