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(...) Really? Not by any definition I'm familiar with - why do you think it suggests 'dozens'? We have a coalition government in Australia (and it's often refered to as 'The Coalition') which consists of only two parties. (And I note that our (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll agree they probably didn't give an order that the building should never be shot at. I think that order would be just as idiotic. I don't think they shot at it just to shoot at reporters though either. Which some news reports have (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This one was. See it in www.euronews.net (choose language first; by the time I'm writing this, it's the second video on the main stories page - requires real player to be seen). The story is here: (URL)b) "unclear", my @$$. European network (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tanks are not necessarily buttoned up (hatches closed with the crew inside). I don't know the current tactical doctrine on whether the commander stays exposed for greater visibilty or trusts to the optics and air-conditioning of the tank or (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (I have reasons to believe there is a Polish contingent over there as well; and I know that the Spanish Navy has ships deployed in the region to assist in the operations. It's a wider gang than you may think at first, even though only 3 of the (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) From what I could see on the footage, there were at least two tanks and no visible ground troops. I assume the camera, which was located at the hotel, to have about the same viewpoint as the alleged sniper. (...) The RTP reporter was (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As I pointed out in another post, people on the 11th floor didn't hear the actual explosion loudly enough to find it suspicious, so the failure to hear rifle fire is hardly incredible. I work in a conventional office building--if someone fired (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I won't dispute that the leadership knew of the hotel, not that it did not want reporters killed. I ask you though, "to avoid making it an explicit target", isn't it implying it can very well be an "implicit" one, whatever that may be? (...) I (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I must take exception to the use of the term "coalition" -- a coded term intended to suggest dozens in numbers when in actuality only 3 countries are actively participating in the INVASION of Iraq: the U.S., England, and Australia. Further, there (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's hard to second-guess battlefield conditions, though I agree that it would have to be an impressive rifle to damage an Abrams. Were there unprotected soldiers or civilians on the ground near the tank? That might change the priority. A (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The leadership of the army knew that the hotel was full of journalists, and avoided making it an explicit target. However I don't think that every front line soldier is given a map of every building and told which to shoot and which not to. (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) military officials said U.S. forces fired on the Palestine Hotel in response to sniper fire from various floors. It is not clear if the explosion was the result of the U.S. response." Comments to this: a) the hotel was across the river from (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yeah, thank god we have the "edumacation" president now -- all that's gonna change! Spencer is not able to connect the dots like some of the other children in class, he ends up with a page of jumbled lines instead of a picture of duckie he can color (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're right--I live in constant fear that a guy with a nickel-bag of pot is going to smoke near me. And those poverty-level criminals are much more dangerous than wealthier (and, therefore, acquittable) criminals. The racial disparity of the (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually I just learned from a previous post that you are a "booklet historian(1)" but I strongly agree on that one, and I wonder why an average American cannot see that one as obviously as any other non-American can see. US always declaring (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Would you rather have those criminals runing the streets? or should they just be executed? (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would not be so quick about declaring Iran as democracy. Do you know anything about how "oppressive" Islam can be? I don't think any "Islamic Republic" can be mentioned as a democracy of any kind. ý don't think any gowernment based on (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I never saw such news in any part of the media during the period. It should be another case of intentional disinformation, either in your country or mine. Having both Fox News/CNN and NTV/Haber Turk (national news channels), and watching them (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) What is really odd, is that Glastonbury was Joseph of Aramathea's holiday destination of choice! (Note that I've never been to Glastonbury, and it may, in fact be a nice place to holiday. It just doesn't seem very convenient to Nazareth (or (...) (21 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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