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(...) How obtuse can you be??? We are talking about *governments*. Free and democratic societies are superior to repressed ones ruled by dictators. What about that is so hard to understand? JOHN (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave: for clarity's sake, let me point out that John is objecting (not incorrectly) to your charge that he is painting the US as the sole provider of blessings, when in fact he merely asserted that the US has produced countless blessings. For (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, your very posts show me that "America the Great" is what matters, and other ideas be damned. (...) Now look who's misreading--I never said "morally equivelance" at all. Would you please read and understand what is being said. In so many (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is not a straw man at all, Larry, and I'm sorry that you're tired. But when you are wrong, you're wrong. You have no issues pointing out when I'm wrong (or others), and I have no problems accepting such criticism. But *a* country has the same (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did I say that? You are obfuscating and being argumentative. (...) I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. (...) I reject your moral equivelance of nations. The second we think we are better is the second that there are second class (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolute Wow! for the article, Richard. Just to start a different debate, one of a more political nature, and one where I don't have an opinion (yet ;) )... Will, or could, the "American Empire" fall, much akin to the former Soviet Union? (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, Dave. Some nations are better than others. That's no slur against those who happen to live in the nations that aren't up to snuff. But when you say stuff like "We, all of us, are equal nations", you're being tiresome. Note that I didn't (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because I am a red-blooded american boy; living, breathing, working, and striving for all that is great and good for my world; and because I am committed to a larger project which takes the downturns and the upswings with a grain of salt; (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More important that 'freedom toast'-- "Two U.S. officials also said Iraqi dissidents slated to take prominent roles in any postwar administration have voiced concerns about the U.N.'s role. "The U.N. has a history of slow, bloated bureaucracy (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Also on CNN today: Bush rallies troops at Central Command in Florida (URL) Air Force One on the flight to Tampa, the breakfast menu included stuffed "Freedom Toast," the latest example of changing menus to show displeasure with (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [Unless they are allies: Pakistan & Israel come to mind] (...) [Yeah, hes already shown himself to be "thankful " for *others* fighting for his country: Vietnam comes to mind] (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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*Applause* (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What? You think America the Great is the only country that 'produces countless blessings upon the world'? You act as if America is the second coming, John! We, all of us, are equal nations (or at least should be), and the second you start (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Just once I would love Dubya to have a speech about this war of his and not infer that's it's due to 9/11 His speech in the Pentagon-- "Eighteen months ago, this building came under attack. From that day to this we have been engaged in a new kind of (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree with some of that, *but* your [collective] "love of Freedom and liberty" is not reflected in your support for all manner of deviants [both current & past] is it? Is self-interest more important than your [collective] "love of Freedom (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have to say, I could not agree more with this point. Searching for legal loopholes to justify highly questionable in/actions is a major annoyance to me. The UK's use of cluster bombs in Iraq [anti-personnel bombs in all but name] is an (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) She also writes in that article (and indirectly criticizes you for your one-sided except): "It would be unfair to reach these harsh conclusions without pointing out that America does provide much aid and expertise to the developing world and (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ouch! Down goes Fraser! He'll be reeling after that hit! Dave K (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed, whole countries have been invaded [allegedly] on that basis. :-\ Scott A (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Before someone points out my error, I should have describe the woman's actions as "second degree murder" rather than "third degree murder." I'm reluctant to address the specifics of your story in case further details should be revealed as we (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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