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(...) I presume you're talking about the government in the latter case, but can you rephrase that without the "at gunpoint" phrase? There's no initiation of force involved; it's simple enforcement of social contract. You may disagree with the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ok, I was refering to the operation of the Government, not the social changes that occured between now and then despite the government's best efforts to the contrary. See maybe we have a slight difference of opinion here. I see the Government, not (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... and who are the spice worms? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While I agree with the trend of your note as a whole -- times have never been perfect and nostalgia is often silly, This one point seems weird. I would rather that people have the ability to trick me losing my money than to take it from me at (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, he was pretty much boo'ed off the stage. It was a good show though--probably the first time I actually sat down and watched the entire show. (hopeing for more 'Lord of the Rings' wins, but alas...) Dave K (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In the interest of furthering my understanding, are you talking about the same time period in which civil rights were non-existent, Presidents could serve an unlimited number of terms, the securities industry was wholly (and tragically) (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Modified hypothetical: Let a = whacky terrorist group run by a psychopath. Let b = nuke-bearing dictatorship run by a guy who likes living the good life and pretty evil, but not plausibly insane. Let c = big country that they both hate. So, a (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. I can't think of a plausible reason to think that we are more concerned with doing good than _everyone_ else. I think that all people are motivated by their own interests which means that any country or society will have "good" and "bad" (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It looked like more of a mob to me. Given the pictures of the conflict shown on al Jazeera, I wonder how [the collective] you would react if the tables were turned? al Jazeera: (URL) this site have an English version?] Scott A (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've still not seen it yet, but well done: Anti-war speeches dominate Oscars (URL) his gracious acceptance speech:] "Fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president... mean we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry "The Plagiarist" Pieniazek writes: Look in the mirror: 1) Think about the way the USA treats POWs from Afghanistan. 2) Think about the war criminals the USA harbours within its borders. 3) Think about the war (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not necessarily. If he believes like a good boy in global warming, abortion, gun control, entitlements, etc,etc, and keeps his (misguided) religion to himself he's okay. I wonder if Bush's favorite TV show is King of the Hill? :-) (...) No, (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As Rodney might say, "tough crowd"-- it's almost as if people think the idea isn't all half bad:-) (...) I see your point, but even if we were able to go back, it would certainly have a profound effect upon society *as we know it*. But how (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmmm, I'm find my myself in disagreement about the first three points already... 1: The war it legal (conclusion). What in the world makes a war "legal"? A better term would be "sanctioned", but if the author really likes the other, I can (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well of course many people think we shouldn't have placed the sanctions on Iraq. Of course I'm not sure what they think we should have done to convince Iraq to "play nice". Of course there is a point that perhaps we weren't justified in (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm, doesn't each of the original 13 states have a copy of the constitution? Of course nuking D.C. wouldn't get the oldest constitution in effect (you'd have to nuke Boston to do that). Also, the nuke isn't going to incinerate the whole city, (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying that Gore isn't a Christian? Quick internet check: Southern Baptist. Oh hey, his favorite movie is Local Hero and TV show is Futurama. Well, alright! Oh, sorry for the digression. So, if what you say is true, then the Left hates (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A lot of that stuff is still hotly debated, Larry. Those are not precisely facts; and it's not as if Buckley doesn't wear his political leanings pinned to his chest. ::cough:: right-wing::cough:: A lot of it was straw man stuff -- easy targets (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No that would not end our society as we know it. It would go a long way toward restoring the government though. At the very least we should try to go back to the pre-FDR days. Ask your grandparents about how the elected representatives used (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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