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Fox is hardly a cite I consider without bias -- I'll wait until at least a few other sources join in confirming the story. And while I don't claim any conspiracy exists to make Saddam appear to be a bad guy (I mean, I accept that he is a bad guy), (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking of trolls... (...) Please cite for me examples in history where the taking out of a capital by a nuclear weapon has been manifestly unimportant in the grand scheme of things. (...) So, let me get this straight-- you assert that the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> Thanks for this cite, David, it's interesting and thought provoking reading. (...) other approach, it isn't always the best choice. Let's assume for this post that it's our problem to solve (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Pitched at students, it's still a good summation of a lot of the arguements flying around. It's also a good scorecard you can to use to evaluate the players here and their relative grips on reality. (note that RM fails point 3 badly) (URL) that (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) didn't because it's too early to know whether there's anything to this. Maybe it's a false alarm... Of course with our great powers of fakery, all part of the Vast Conspiracy(tm), it wouldn't take more than a day or two to knock up a 100 (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hehe maybe not for long: (URL) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Did you not read how Bush and Blair both admit they cannot connect AQ and SH? It's on the white house's own pages. So your hypothetical is just that -- entirely imaginary. And I have yet to see where Iraq has these fearful weapons of mass (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I appreciated the approach of this article, because I agreed with their premise-- that to simply cry "no war" without providing any alternate solution is mindless. It is unfortunate that the examples they gave to elucidate their hypothesis in (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Another reason to kick their miserable a$$es. If we did that in the U.S. people would practically overthrow the government... this just goes to show how bad Saddam has gotten and why we should remove him and his corrupt, totalitarian regime. (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hypothetical Situation: Let ! =a group of terrorists Let @ =an autocratic country with wmds, built or in progress. Also, they dont have a single resource anyone would want Let # =a country that the 2 above hate with every fiber of their being (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough. (...) Yeah, because I *do* make a distinction between the deadly force perpetrated by both sides. The Israelis desire to root out and kill *terrorists*-- the fact that these cowardly scumbags hide in and among the civilian (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Gadzooks! That's just intolerable. I guess we should just go over there and teach them a lesson. O wait... Risks of War: death, maiming, mutilation, maltreatment, rape...doesn't much matter which side you are on from what I have understood of it. (...) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Iraq military really knows how to treat people....they received a report that a pilot ejected and landed in the tigris river in baghdad...so what does the irag military do? ...they shoot at the river....nice way to take pows. (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) (URL) should be required reading for all the gun-toting "Shoot first, ask questions later" yahoos who think because they have the ability to shoot a gun, that using one solves problems better than any other way. Anti-war does (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John: You really will just argue inanely over almost anything won't you? Frank's post was so reasonable, so even-handed as to almost be void of interesting comment. At face value, and as history has taught us again and again -- taking out a single (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From: (URL) this: Iraq's Defence Minister, Sultan Hashim Ahmed, said Iraq would "not harm the captured prisoners of war". "It will treat them in accordance with the Geneva Convention on prisoners of war." with this: An ICRC spokeswoman said it was (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) protestor who takes up an anti-war sign. JOHN (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Come on, Frank, you can't possibly make the comparison of the incineration of 2 *buildings* to the incineration of an entire *city*. And I wasn't talking about just *any* city; I specifically meant Washington, D.C. And what if the attack came (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) --Anyone with half a brain must see that Saddam has --to be taken out. It is extraordinarily ironic that the --anti-war protesters are marching to defend a --government which stops its people exercising that --freedom. particularly interesting (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's just silly. I have no problem calling it terrorism. Any tactic designed primarily to inspire fear (or "shock and awe?") is a terrorist tactic. I still stand behind the notion that terrorism sometimes makes good sense. My verbiage was (...) (22 years ago, 23-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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