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Wow. Strong emotions from a strong people. That said... once again into the fray... (...) Greatest? History, my friend, will see about that. Greeks thought... Romans thought... whatever. Arrogance does not make one great. The ability to take over (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) can't) (...) Unless I fill in the blanks first... It was Marbury v. Madison in 1803. From (URL) : The new Constitution declared itself to be the "supreme law of the land a fundamental law binding upon state and federal officers alike. To make (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Freedom of Speech can be restricted by requirements of circumstance and profession. If W announced that we were about to obliterate Canada with nuclear bombardment and said that we've just launched the missiles, would you say "oh, that's just (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not looking up the specifics, but as I recall, in the first years of the Supreme Court, maybe during the reign of Madison(?), the court decided that some big name law passed by Congress (that we should all remember, but I can't) was (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe the word you're looking for is 'idealism' (...) And I think it's important for our neighbours to the south to recall that we Canadians play the best Americans on T.V. I can;t speak for the ROC, but I know that I like my entertainment (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, just so there's no confusion, I was kidding about the "that's MINE" bit. Dave! (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Oh I hate when this happens--I had a most beautiful resonse in the making and I accidentally closed explorer!! Grr!!! K, here goes--take 2 Using West Wing for a basis of research on politics is like using Pretty Woman for the basis of reasearch on (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've never watched the show, but I'm given to wonder if the people to whom it's marketed are themselves disposed to the sort of government depicted on the small screen. I'm loathe to use the term "statist" since it's become something of a (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See the following. I rather found it interesting: (URL) Oh, he had a private life--the problem is that everyone knew about it! (...) That's not democracy, if one opinion is higher than all others. It may be reality, but it's anathema to the (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. Good point. Still, it's risky for the leader of the nation to take a stance on religion when there's a very real chance of being exclusionary on that basis. (...) Oh, he had a private life--the problem is that everyone knew about it! (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol, and it is *because* of this self-imposed slavery that we *remain* the "free-est" and greatest nation on the planet. (...) Wrong. They are the cornerstone of our greatness. Without them we would be nothing. They *are* sacred, or at least (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> You would be well served not to use "West Wing" as your basis for research, or even for sound bites. It's terribly biased in the statist/socialist direction and the writers are quite skillful (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Back into the fray (from a much needed absence 'cause I had to re-evaluate the way I come across in my posts...) /America rant on The next time anyone tells me the USofA is the 'free-est' nation on the planet, I'm going to point to this thread (and (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting that the same Amendment that you cite condemning his "endorsment" of religion protects his right to do so. But I think you are applying it incorrectly in this case. The First Amendment prohibits *congress* from establishing (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In every speech in which W invokes God on behalf of America, he's endorsing religion. When he condemned the court's decision, he explicitly endorsed religion. In his private life, George can worship absolutely anything he chooses, but as The (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd say that the actual start of our country is somewhat nebulous. I guess it feels good for us to say that it is 4 July 1776, but we had been effectively governing ourselves for some time at that point. Further, I think the adoption of the (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is exactly what I think happened. (...) That is probably good advice in many instances. But generally I guage my efforts by how amusing it is TO ME to make the response. Yes, if you can believe it -- I entertain myself this way at times. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope, I am not the slightest interested in acknowledgement of the effort at all, not unless it leads to interesting discussions. That would be cool. FWIW, it has also been my understanding that there is no real standard of behavior as to (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) :-) (...) Um, aren't we splitting hairs here? The Continental Congress ratified the DoI on July 4, 1776. We mark this date as the beginning of our country (you're no the only one who has a command of the obvious!:) So are you trying to argue (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whew! I'm sure I will. I place an unseemly value on "the really good notes" in this forum. Most of those have been written by you about the law and related politics, LFB about history and particularly it's effects on our current perceptions, (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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