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(...) started (...) the (...) What am I missing here? What is the link between Dann's pic, Scott's comment & "official USA doctrine"? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's more or less what I was saying too. (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe because what James said happens to be true-- you need to think about history to appreciate its wisdom. I will go on record as to saying that Richard's post in question was probably the most disturbing I've ever read in this forum as (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now that I think of it, there's another interpretation of Scott's post that I don't believe has been considered. Maybe Scott's point can be paraphrased as "Wow. As commentary-in-LEGO, that ranks..." I absolutely don't presume to put words in (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:Guq6vs.DKE@lugnet.com... (...) Lego bricks (...) that any (...) offensive (...) Lego(r) (...) of (...) inappropriate (...) picking a (...) they (...) satire. (...) a (...) as (...) (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was tempted to reply to James with "this is one of the scariest, most disturbing posts I've ever read on LUGNET."... but I thought I had better not! ;) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can you substantiate this using an independent source? My understanding is that schools in places like Jenin are mostly run by UNRWA, are you saying that they operate in the manner you describe? From the UNRWA: ==+== The Palestine refugee (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) People that prize peace do not express themselves in terms of "complete military victory." And you think I make scarey comments? I think Israel already has complete superiority by way of arms. Why don't they just march on in and commit (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Palestinian people have been taught, almost since birth, to hate Israel and Jews. You can’t find a map in a Palestinian school that shows the nation of Israel. The hatred is deep and intense … and no negotiations or negotiated peace (...) (23 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Y'know, these ad hominem attacks are quite annoying. Do y'all think you improve understanding of a pointedly pro-Israel perspective without providing any kind of REAL argument to favor your views? James' original assertions were tripe, practically (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are entitled to your own opinion, however wrong it is (as in this case). I've seen that happen lots of times before. -John (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Man, do I ever feel despondent… I've been here for over 2 years and I'm still second-string to the ‘other’ Richard… (no matter how much he likes me) ;) ~After all, we’ve got two totally different signatures: Mr. Marchetti has the clever, (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.people, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your English usage is still quite excellent nevertheless! :) (...) Different individual. (But that’s already been clarified.) Usually when I make a point I endeavor to debate the issues and not the character of the individual. (...) I do (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott: Many thanks for the information about the Guardian. The hard copy will not be necessary, but I appreciate the offer very much. -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott would have to speak for himself on what he meant (and he doesn't always read .debate so may miss this unless notified by email, and even then may choose not to respond at all)... but I did not take what he said as either of those things. (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott, I have to ask if you are suggesting that it's innapropriate to use Lego bricks for the expression of social-political satire? Or are you suggesting that any social-political commentary outside official USA doctrine to be as offensive (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GupGzn.7J5@lugnet.com... (...) you (...) with a (...) their (...) use (...) record. (...) I wasn't making any judgement. Just saying what was reported on the BBC news. lawrence (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GuJFqI.KG9@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) airplanes (...) interesting (...) (URL) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The BBC has a charter that says it must be 100% independent/impartial... and this is checked quite thoroughly. The Guardian is an independent newspaper (owned by a trust) which is free to print what it wishes without being libellous. It (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Look at Israel’s history since ’47. Look at the current conflict. Do you think Sharon sent in the army and imposed a virtual press blackout with a plan to drink sweet tea, hand out fruit and talk peace? Really? The Palestinian's agree it (...) (23 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:Guo8A8.3J7@lugnet.com... (...) probably (...) edge of (...) refugees (...) the (...) the (...) 6-day (...) that (...) shantytown (...) Independence (...) the land (...) Quite a bit of video (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Since I have never been to your land, a comparison to the BBC would be helpful for me since I do have some sense where they fall into place. So I guess one could say that these people live either actually at war, or in a de facto state of war, (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This is from my memory, so don’t recite too loudly! Dan Jassim probably could give your question more justice. I have never visited but… I think the short answer is "both". On the edge of the town of Jenin exists a refugee camp which has probably (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's sort of both. Jenin was originally a town. The refugee camp was built next to the town decades ago, and has slowly evolved into a town itself. According to my understandment of the recent events, it was the refugee camp (which is more (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) camp, a town, a camp-within-a-town, a town-within-a-camp, or something else? I ask because I've heard it referred to alternatively as any of the above, so I'm unclear of what sort of area is at stake. That doesn't in any way reduce the loss (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I guess it is only now that the press is getting access: (URL) read Suzanne Goldenberg's report. She describes the camp as "a vast expanse of rubble": (URL) A (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for jumping in, HopFrog. And sorry to Richard Noeckel. My fault - I mixed up the two names.... Kind Regards, Ben (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, Ben, I think you mean me -- I used the word first. There are two Richards underfoot at this point -- the best way to tell the difference between us is that the other Richard is younger and better looking than I am. =oP -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry Richard, English is not my mother tongue. So why did I use the word greed here? As a matter of fact I have not used that word since ever - I had to look into my dictionary to cheack the meaning of "greed". I only have used this word, (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, perhaps it is. Ben is E2L(1), please keep that in mind, and sometimes that causes misunderstanding. Reading over your words and his, I don't find that much disagreement, believe it or not. (I'm in the camp that's glad any time Lego, in (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nah, I could easily see myself buying one for the sheer desire to actually get my hands on something so phenominal I never had a chance to acquire. I think desire is a better word. (...) I've never seen anyone who hordes yelloe castle parts, (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Greed? GREED?? G R E E D?!?!?! Whoa… maybe you look @ the hobby in a different manner that I. But ‘Greed’ isn’t a term I'd apply to my ‘yearning’ for a 375. ~Perhaps your word usage is flawed? I don’t see anything gluttonous, or insatiable (...) (23 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.castle, lugnet.general)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GuJFqI.KG9@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) airplanes (...) interesting (...) (URL) whilst there have been countless documentaries about the attack on the twin towers (which I guess is (...) (23 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A list I get mail from was having a little fun with this site, some of the listers were rather amused at the whole presumptuousness of making airplanes disappear. I have no idea what to think, myself, but found it interesting reading. You might too. (...) (23 years ago, 14-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I posted this first in legoland.california, but realised there doesn't seem to be much traffic there. So thought I would try my luck here too. Coming to California this summer. Just booked the flights to San Diego Any hotel recommendations for San (...) (23 years ago, 10-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The fact that these attacks are suicide attacks is irrelevant. The issue is the deliberate and unjustifiable killing of civilians. (...) What do padres promise your country’s troops as they go into battle? Hell and damnation? I think not! (...) (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What exactly are these warriors promised from the afterlife? How is their belief about the ultimate sacrifice different than our own? Many Americans have made suicidal attacks "in the line of honor." How and why is it different? I think that (...) (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) In our culture, we are mostly brought up to believe that life is precious and that suicide isn't a viable option. We are shocked and dismayed when people kill (...) (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and agree with you. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree with you. Fredrik (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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