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(...) So why are you here moaning about gun control when "totalitarian factions in the US" are denying trial by jury to people? Is it because is not you or you family who is being held without charge? Scott A (23 years ago, 22-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interestingly, there was an article on BBC Radio 4 last night about crime control methods in Europe. Some facts about Switzerland: + Their crime rate is half the EU average (Switzerland is not part of the EU) + Their police force is around the (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hitler was never elected chancellor. He never had more than ~35% of the vote. Scott A (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And we can always trust reporters to get the whole story 8?) (...) policy (...) fire (...) I'd be interested in more information about this. How did they ensure that non-law-abiding citizens didn't carry guns? Over what period did the change (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[snip] (...) ownership (...) Well ABC news had a 20/20 report about a county in the USA. (I forget exactly where) That county had one of the highest crime rates in the country. A policy was enacted that required all able bodied, law abiding citizens (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) is (...) a (...) Not all crimes involve firearms. (...) Or people without enough information to decide whether there is a need or not. If Joe Six-pack sees a shop-lifter, and pulls out his legal firearm to stop them, when not required, does (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Most of the "major news stories" have been geared to distract the average mindless American into thinking they need the federal Government. The Y2K farce was a good example of that. Personally I really hope that some government faction did not (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting. It does seem to include a good definition of "scalper" even though it uses it as a perjorative. I do have some comments on it though. - They are making a value judgement about Ben's collection (he's the one who bought 3 C-3POs, 2 (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) social (...) In the SIRS from the local Library. Skip the NRA surveys and the Hangun Control Inc. surveys. Propaganda from either side is irrelivent. The Gallup Poll surveys and studies are the ones Congress uses (or at least is supposed to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Cite, please. I'd like to read evidence of the "all economic and social classes" bit. (...) Cite, please. I would say that of all family members shot by other family members, 100% are shot by guns (well, the people who wield them). Before (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Before some of the sillier rhetoric goes much further -- the historical reason for the 2nd Amendment in the U.S. is exactly as Mike states in the above. Yes, we have a system of checks and balances. Yes, we are supposed to have separate (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking of scalpers... I came across this page on the Rebelscum website: (URL) their definition of Collector apply to LEGO in the context of this thread? -Rob. (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I assumed you said something to the effect of "document A is similar to document B issued by Hitler, therefore document A is bad". Fredrik (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is more or less identical to the old "we've discovered 2/3 of all the oil in the world" argument. What qualifies as a "crime," in your example? What qualifies as "preventing" a "crime" in your example? If my possession of a handgun (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, let's rephrase the question, since you seem to be invoking the "chances are he'll never use the gun at all" escape clause. Assuming the gun is at some point fired (other than for hunting or target practice) who is statistically the most (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's take the Hitler example, then. Hitler was not only democratically elected (although I doubt the soundness of the process), but he also enjoyed massive, sincere support from the population. Still, I feel confident that there were heaps of (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) using (...) Not very many. They would tend to get shot for trying. (...) Only criminals use guns as a threat when there is no need. That is why they are criminals. (...) All things being equal otherwise, in areas where it is eaiser to legally (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Flawed Logic. You have assumed I stated something along the lines of "[Hitler was an Elected offical therefore elected officals are bad]" What I stated, or at least was trying to convey, was that Hitler was an elected offical therefore (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You can ask a rhetorical question and you can ask someone a question but you cannot ask someone a rhetorical question for when you ask a rhetorical question you don't want and/or expect an answer, as in, "What's up with that?" You can ask a (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can I ask you a rhetorical question, while still staying with the Hitler subject? Hitler was a vegetarian. Does that prove anything about vegetarians? Fredrik (23 years ago, 21-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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