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  Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
 
(...) How are they NOT? While they share many similarities, can you seriously say the mindset of the country as a whole is the same between them? Canada and the UK seem to lean too far to the Socialist side compared to the US, IMO. There are many (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More on Palestine
 
(...) That's a good question. I don't know if I'd pin it down to a hard definition applied universally. It almost needs a case-by-case analysis. But I certainly don't see Hiroshima/Nagasaki as acts of terrorism, and DO see WTC as acts of terrorism. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Israel and Palestine
 
(...) Just for my own edification, if a Jewish family could produce a legitimate deed from, say, eight or ten centuries ago documenting their ownership of a piece of property in modern Palestinian land, would you accept that deed as proof of their (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Israel and Palestine
 
(...) What do you mean? Its clear the Israelis are on the offensive by the fact that they are occupying Palestinian land. So every Israeli soldier is logically considered part of the occupying force and a threat to Palestinian freedom. Therefore, (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Israel and Palestine
 
(...) Why not? There have already been numerous lawsuits regarding post-WWII settlements regarding property and assets of Jewish families that survived the Holocaust. I support any efforts to bring misdoings to light and seek justice for all victims (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Israel and Palestine
 
(...) Israel must renounce Zionism, which is a racist, fanatical, exclusionist and intolerant political belief that regards the Holy Land as exclusively the home of the Jews and Judaism, and deems that Christianity and Islam have no place there. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can Larry Justify These Ones? Let's see!
 
(...) Justify that I'm not convinced of something? How am I supposed to do that, exactly? Get a grip on yourself and your frothing. (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Israel and Palestine
 
(...) Are you prepared to support complete and full reparation of all property taken from these European Jews? Personally, I'd actually like to see that. I also wonder if their concerns had been taken seriously earlier whether we would be in the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Can Larry Justify These Ones? Let's see!
 
(...) For the 3rd time : Can you justify this in any way? (...) Well? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Asked and *not * answered ( was Re: Will Larry ever answer this?
 
(...) Justification please. (...) Larry your argument is hollow. It is empty. Can you justify it. Come on Larry, I am almost interested. Scott A (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "White man's club":...another smear by Scott
 
(...) Than you are in denial of reality (in my opinion). (...) That depends on the sense you imply. Do you prefer "overwhelmingly & disproportionately white man's club"? (...) Nope. Your post was a correction for dave. It had nothing to do with me. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea?
 
(...) ... but you offer no justification. How simple your life must be. I almost envy you. (...) I offer facts, you offer unbased opinion. Ho hum. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Israel and Palestine
 
(...) Thanks for the cogent restatement! (...) ... but forgive me if the answers raise more questions (...) I can see your reasoning even if I don't agree... but how would the chain of events unfold to get from 1 to 2 below? Does the current state (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Asked and answered ( was Re: Will Larry ever answer this?
 
(...) You can post and repost this as many times as you like, I've said what I wanted to say. I doubt the veracity of UN statistics but more importantly, the other two legs stand. Fault lies with the perpetrator, not the victim and not the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "White man's club":...another smear by Scott
 
(...) I don't deny demographics. Never did. I deny relevance to message. (...) How convenient, you set the question up so you get to keep using your smear. The term is pejorative and you know it. (...) In fact it does. You are smearing by using the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea?
 
(...) Silence is not assent. Who has time to deny everything you allege? Not me, it would deny me time to do anything else. But I specifically deny this (that I am in denial about Sudan or Iraq), if it will make you happy. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) I'm not saying it is racist. If I thought that, I would say that. It is a bunch of white guys sitting playing with an agenda which will benifit them. This was covered in the thread a while back. I remembered that. I looked at Larry's views on (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Israel and Palestine
 
(...) Is this offensive & defensive action? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) I was talking more about the linkage to events of 11th sept. The link is clear. (...) One would hope not. (...) Is so, that would be equall irrelevant (to me). (...) In the news yes. But this is not news. This is opinion from a political (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) I'm only responding because this refers back to a post that I was at least in part quoted on. Saying the Libertarian party primarily appeals to middle/upper-middle class white males and calling it a "white man's club" are two different things. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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