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  And you thought a national ID card was scary...
 
Well, OK some of you didn't think is was *that* scary. Check this out: (URL) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Oh, I agree with you, totally! He SHOULD NOT be driving. So then... you concede that since the state nevertheless issued him a license, that licenses don't work to keep unsafe drivers off the road, right? That's what the example is (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
 
  Re: 6776... Is this True?
 
(...) Ummm, 8007, 8008?? They actually encourage you to buy both so the storm-trooper can shoot C3PO in the chest, and watch it's (OK it *is* a 'droid) head & arms get blown off. ROSCO (disclaimer: yes I own both, yes I think the mechanism is neat, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hold your fire?
 
(...) The article seems a bit myopic, lacking in a historical perspective. The basically tribal societies of Afghanistan and indeed the five central Asian former Soviet states could continue see-sawing for centuries. The U.S. and Osama conflict (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) I also dunno about the context thing, but further down in the article "Crusaders" are mentioned to be "terrorizing" the people living in Arabia. Obviously, it is an interpretation made by people who must think the 12th century isn't over yet (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) And what would it be done to prevent fraud, then? (...) So why not put a 5-year-old driving a Humvee, if his father can pay for the damage? As for the case of the old man, it is up to him and his family to provide alternatives - this way he (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) What if the permit is almost granted to be issued, unless one is declared "unfit"? (by a number of reasons, including possibly being a lunatic or a terrorist) (...) And then you get really shocked about stuff like Columbine, Waco, or that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Horst Lehner writes: (Snipped) (...) Horst, I couldn't agree much more! Add "Portugal" to that paragraph, please... Pedro (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Maybe... but then again, it is highly unlikely that any portuguese hasn't had ancestors of different races/ethnicites, thus noone can pick on me for that. Besides, names here are all alike, for all ethnicites. (...) Ah, fame... I can count (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
 
  Fatwah
 
(URL) hadn't read this before. I also haven't read the Koran (there seem to be many possible spellings of this, I've also seen Qu'urran, for example) But this quote from the beginning of the fatwah HAS to be taken out of context, right? "But when (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Hold your fire?
 
(URL) (was?) this analysis correct? What do people think? Is today's action likely to undermine any Taliban crumbling, or is it more of a "take out the air defenses so the aid aircraft won't get shot down" that won't strengthen Taliban resolve? I (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
 
(...) That 'live on CNN of course' seems like a barbed comment. If I'm wrong please forgive my assumption but are you saying 'typically we're hearing it from a large American corporation' to which I would say that it was equally live on BBC News 24 (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
 
(...) Indeed. I realise that I was insufficiently precise when I said I oppose bombing by the US, what I should have said was "bombing by itself". BTW the Taliban has responded. CNN is a bit slow right now so you may want to try to find this AP (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6776... Is this True?
 
(...) I don't get it. Aren't they? Chris P.S. They can't be all bad...after all, Tough Borris cried when his parot's days were up. (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
 
(...) Well, here's to hoping it remains an attack against the Taliban and that we'll do the right thing when we're done. At least the immediate plans include a massive perfusion of aid to refugees, so that's a start. Chris (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 6776... Is this True?
 
(...) And the cannon are just for firing 21 gun salutes... And surely, the falling masts on the Red Beard Runner and the Armada Flagship are just a nifty feature to make it easier for the crew to change the sails... I just don't buy the idea that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
 
I have mixed feelings about this, in one way think they deserve it, but in another way I feel for the families in Kabul, even though they are strikning Taleban targets(ie military) The civilians don't that, they must be EXTREMELY scared. My 0.02 (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
 
Live on CNN of course lawrence (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This is disgusting!...
 
(...) Triage, in other words, applied to oppression! (patients that you cannot help, don't. Patients that will recover without you, don't. Concentrate on the third group, those that will benefit from your help and which would die (continue with (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: War
 
(...) Disagree. You could be typing from an office in any nation in the world. I would assert (with no intent of proving it) that there are net connections into virtually every nation at this point. (...) We have exploited others wrongly and have (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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