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  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Test them in some way. Inspect how the store their guns (this happens in the UK). Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I don't. Because "used illegally" is a misnomer. When I was a teen, I knew kids (several) who carried guns daily. Those were all guns used illegally. And none of them were a problem. The problem only comes from people committing other crimes (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I've certainly read a number of instances where this is true - but in Victorian times in England, people would tackle criminals, too, with neither side armed with guns. It may be more a function of the times. But then again, maybe it means the (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Well, for a start, if he really was a 'patriot', he'd have been on our side! (or Native American) You can't be a patriot if you don't have a country yet. Jason J Railton (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) judiciary's stance. I don't have any problem with the reporter's work, if that's what you mean. I think that the court has been cowardly in not embracing the obviously correct meaning of the second amendment. I suspect that they wish not to (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) As I mentioned in another message, my wife's cousin was shot and killed under just such circumstances. So I can't agree that it's funny (I know that's not how you meant it). Anyway, you statement doesn't change mine - I'm not talking about any (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I'd welcome a straightforward proposal of amendments and an honest debate. What gets up my nose is the chinese water torture we've seen lately in which the constitution has been suborned one step at a time by "activist" judges. I support (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I however, would urge and support a ban on weapons of mass destruction. Chris (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I think you missed the path of the discussion - my comment was based on an earlier one that said everything would be peaceful and wonderful if *EVERYONE* walked around with a gun. Now, as to your statement, I take it you have never had a gun (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) How do you diagnose, let alone enforce that? (...) -Duane (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Yes. And that's a good thing. The way it's supposed to work is that our states are almost individual nations. loosely federated for the purpose of administration and holding to constitutional edicts. The fact that states (and the federal (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) It depends on how you define win. There isn't any point in dying for nothing. There are situations in which dying is worthwhile. But not when it's just pointless. If you could defend person X from a wrong, but would be killed, or you could go (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Yes. It does. Several. (...) I should, and I do. And there are many others like me. Chris (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: *Child* Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) What's that supposed to mean? (...) OK, show me. Find the numbers of violent deaths of children for the US and the UK and compare them. I'm not that interested in the number of gun deaths, because dying from a bullet is no worse than being (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Just the largest and scariest. (...) Or maybe you're wrong and argumentative for no purpose. (...) He doesn't. I don't. No one does...not in a visceral ever-present way. But when you look at their ability and willingness to forego reasonable (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I think that we can assume authorial intent on this one Dave! Since the text wouldn't mean anything if there was no way to get the arms, I assume that the broader picture of gun availability is protected too. However, I agree that this is (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) It wasn't a bad film--it would have been a bad history text, if it had aspired to be a history text at all. As a piece of fiction, it was quite effective. Now The Patriot--*that* was a bad film. Dave! (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Yes, absolutely, and I don't think that's any misinterpretation. Quoting from the opening of the Declaration of Independence: (...) I think it's pretty clear that the founding fathers recognized that governments can and will become so corrupt (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Interesting. So what is your take on this: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Even tanks? Even fighter jets? Even chemical weapons? Even ICBM's? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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