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  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) First, if they actually were compliant with all the available data, then just like in the current system, we understand it to be a mistake and they do what they can to clean it up. Let's assume though, that there were data suggesting that it (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Business has never been free to realize that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. They have never been actually liable for their damages across the long term. They have never existed in an unrestrained market where the government (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Sure. And if the public believed that, based on the evidence, and all the massive evidence counter to that organization's claims, then Joe Smith would get rich dumping into the reservoir. Just like today. Only, in Libertopia: a)I think that (...) (23 years ago, 11-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Naw, he want's oil prices to skyrocket. You (okay, the American people rejected him, but there he is) elect oilmen, what do you expect? When re-election time comes, he's going to find out all those California businesses that saw their profits (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) That's 'cause the government didn't bother to read the rules to Illuminati: Weird Groups (Gamers) are immune to Government Groups (Secret Service). Fnord. (...) Yeah for Libertopia! These corporate sharks rape the system for all it's worth, (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) lol, sorry if I came across like that, I was just wishing that mine was not as high as it is. I have a one bedroom apt, so I know my bill is less than many others, so I do feel lucky for that. (...) True, but your state will follow soon, Cali (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: July surprise for castle fans!
 
(...) Absoloutely fine. Heck, that's probably why Anthony started this part of the thread. And I certainly agree that there are those who want 'em. I guess what I was suprised at was the sarcasm. [FUTting to o-t.debate just in case]. If you want to (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
 
(...) lol, was it me? ( (URL) ). My post there says what I would have posted here. (...) Good point! Basically, the core of it is the same thing? Even has the 'cool' part. I can not recall many (note: I said recall, not saying there has not been) (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) No, that's not it. I'll try to track it down for you. I got it from a recent debate about the proposed Patient's Bill of Rights. D (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: But I was serious about the c/can/cannot thing. What does that mean? Dave! (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I am not aware of any deregulation of the medical industries, at least not in this country in the last, oh, 70 years or so. Can you elaborate? Or were you meaning deregulation like what California did in the case of the power industry. That (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) many cases, not all cases. So no, what you think I said isn't right. (...) Sometimes they are. Steve Jackson Games won a suit against the government I believe... The upside of small corporations is that it's possible to win against them. The (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What makes a cool kid cool? (was: Re: A new area of LEGO.com: the Build section)
 
In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Courtney writes: <snip> (...) Good post, good point, good debate fodder, Tim. I'm ambivalent, I do think that maybe "cool kids" may be a bit TOO judgemental... but dodgeball (I was always picked last and usually out first (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Where does all this c/can/cannot stuff come from? Is it English, or is it some esoteric computerese? FUT OT.Geek? Is that right? The gov't can't be sued for anything? I thought they simply weren't subject to civil suits, but were subject to (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
I think you have a few nots missing, and a few added where they do not belong (...) c /can/cannot/ in many cases. Nor can government employees. (Libertopian corporations would have no such immunity for their personnel) (...) That is, has the power (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) So you're agreeing that a corporation will not only be just as corrupt, but will likewise take steps to make sure that its corruption is beyond the reach of individual correction? The difference is that the government can be sued, and the (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Yer all softies. I was born and bred in de briar patch, and I grew up without air conditioners at school, home, or the car. Give me Joshua Tree and some water (for the water colors, mind you, not to drink - that's for sissies). Death Valley on (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Perhaps people will start to realize the economic folly of living in the desert.... (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Well, the biggest such organization today is.... The United States Federal Government.... Think about it, what makes the government any different than Joe Smith TWD? Actually, there's a really big difference, they've done such a good PR job (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Here's a news flash: I already *DO* conserve. we're very careful to limit our usage, and our power bills still keep skyrocketing. The BIG (have politicians in their back pockets) COMPANIES in the area get rate cuts when they conserve, but I (...) (23 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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