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Re: Why the founding fathers limited government scope (was Re: Rolling Blackouts
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Thu, 10 May 2001 20:24:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
I think you have a few nots missing, and a few added where they do not belong

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:

The difference is that the government can be sued,

c /can/cannot/ in many cases. Nor can government employees. (Libertopian
corporations would have no such immunity for their personnel)

  Where does all this c/can/cannot stuff come from?  Is it English, or is it
some esoteric computerese?  FUT OT.Geek?
  Is that right?  The gov't can't be sued for anything?  I thought they
simply weren't subject to civil suits, but were subject to criminal suits
with compensatory damages?
  I'm aware that individual employees can't be sued for the actions of the
gov't, but how is that different from a private individual's assets being
separate from his incorporated assets?  A man's house can't be seized for
the wrongdoing of his corporation even if his corporation is sued into
bankrupcy.

and the government has
the finances to reimburse appropriate damages,

That is, has the power to tax everyone to pay for their mistakes... somehow
I don't see that as a win.

  No, it's not perfect, but a corporation always likewise passes its costs
to the consumer a la Philip Morris.  And, once the corporation achieves
monopoly status, there's little likelihood of a tiny competitor swooping in
on the heels of a lawsuit to overtake the market.

and the government is not the
largest offender re: illegal toxic dumping (to continue the example).

c/ is not/ is/ depending on your definition of how to determine if something
is illegal. Certainly the US government is the world's single biggest
polluter with the most sites on the US superfund list, which I thought
doesn't include non US sites but could be wrong. Yet the US government did
pollute outside of US territory and may in fact be still doing so, not sure.

   Really?  I'll have to research that further.

     Dave!



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(...) many cases, not all cases. So no, what you think I said isn't right. (...) Sometimes they are. Steve Jackson Games won a suit against the government I believe... The upside of small corporations is that it's possible to win against them. The (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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I think you have a few nots missing, and a few added where they do not belong (...) c /can/cannot/ in many cases. Nor can government employees. (Libertopian corporations would have no such immunity for their personnel) (...) That is, has the power (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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