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(...) 6000 civilians? You are sure right? And systematically?..Wow..You enlightened me..:-) Doc knows my country better than me..:-) I know Turkey has the worst kind of scum as a government for decades but only one thing that I'm sure of exists, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good thing for most of Europe enough people thought it was moral to fight a war on foreight soil (though I guess in some cases, outside participation was invited). I also don't think we would have the relative peace we have in Europe had we (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That was in the bad old days... most other countries were doing pretty much the same - or wanted to. But sure, I'm still not proud of it. Anyhow, we have rebranded ourselves as the "UK" :-) (...) I view some laws as protection for the poor or (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's the way of blood feuds. Or gang-warfare. Or <your phrase of choice here>! Still, a less polemical tone might be more appropriate for someone in Great Britian. Britain is hardly a country without fault, historically speaking. If the sun (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You have a government which systematically abuses human rights and as taken part in the killing of ~6000 civilians in the war you describe. Who voted for them? (...) The IRA has weapons UK, USA and eastern Europe. Bizarrely, some of the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Turkey and Israel are "free to take care of it". However, both have a history of ignoring human rights and murdering civilians in the process. (...) Hmm. And what about the rocket attacks I see your army perpatrate alsmost daily on small (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ooh, Selçuk - now you're talking things I can relate to. What you're describing here reminds me a lot of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict that Scott and Dan were condemning earlier. I stayed out of the discussion because I know where those things (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, in what way is (URL) propaganda, exactly? It may be presenting information about things that you'd rather it didn't, but that's about it. FUT off-topic.debate (...) There is no way to stop a site from being nominated. ++Lar (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, but both of these were not the main idea behind the film, if I got it correctly. Besides the film was not the main subject here. (...) So at least you already got the main idea, partially..:-) And believe me, public DOES NOT always (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) From imdb: Factual errors: The Guildford 4 & the Maguire 7 were not tried in the same court simultaneously. Factual errors: Guiseppe Conlon & Gerry were never in the same prison. (...) It must be: (URL) differnce is that the public in the UK (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Kurdish people not equal to PKK just like Irish people not not equal to IRA. I hope this would help. And if the film "In The Name of My Father" ((URL) has any truth in it, it is sometimes quite difficult to separate one from the other, huh? (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Prices in Sweden: One US gallon = 3.85 US $ one metric litre = 10:36 Skr one US gallon = 3.7854 litres 1 US$ = 10:198 Skr (10.36 x 3.7854) / 10.198 = 3.8455.... /Tobbe (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah. But a certain NATO country is no friend to the kurds either. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, and Yogi Berra nevers said "Deja Vu all over again", right??? <grin> ++Lar (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What's to investigate, it's like discovering that bears poop in the woods. The man (and I use word that in only the biological sense) is the scum of the earth. He has been killing off the marsh Arabs in the south and the Kurds in the north (he (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I wasn't trying to pick a fight, either. I certainly didn't receive your words as negative criticism towards myself -- I definitely need to try to express that better in the future. FWIW, I liked the movie. The first time I watched it (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and 10 years after the event Saddam Hussein is being _investigated_ for war crimes: (URL) shall sleep well tonight knowing that Scotland Yard is on the case. Scott A (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ooh! Thank you Dan! I could go for some good salsa about now. (...) And who are you to turn the heart of the average American? To introduce some new compassion into even a small fraction of your peers...it's a pretty tall order. I hate to (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) invasions and occupation of land in Egypt, Syria and Lebenon and their occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. On a side note: the USA still maintains sanctions against Cuba, really for no good reason other than because the Cold War generation (...) (23 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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